Igor,

My servo drives are Yaskawa and it is my understanding that they close the 
speed  and current loops, and EMC2 closes the position loop.  It is important 
that the outside loop (position) be at least, if not more responsive, than the 
middle loop (speed).  Maybe my settings will help you:

EMC2:
Max Velocity = .5
Max Acceleration = 10.
P = 280
I = 3.5
D = .25
FF0 = .25

Yaskawa:
Cn-03 Speed Reference Gain = 1500
AutoTune Rigidity = 4
Cn-04 Speed Loop Gain = 165
Cn-05 Speed Loop Integration Time Constant = 22
Cn- 17 Torque Reference Filter Time Constant = 4

Also, when servo tuning use the maximum velocity and view the velocity profile 
on Halscope.  It took me many, many tries to get these numbers . . . like Las 
Vegas!  Good luck.

-----Original Message-----
From: Igor Chudov [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 9:37 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: [Emc-users] Servos cannot calm down -- maybe I should go away from 
velocity mode in amplifiers?

I posted a message to this list that my servo motors cannot calm down
after a motion.

Right now my amplifiers are set to velocity mode and I use a
tachometer for velocity feedback. So, the amps themselves have a
velocity loop that they close. There is essentially two loops per
axis, one in EMC2 and one in the amplifier.

Unfortunately, my efforts  to tune PID to calm the mill down, have not
been successful. If I turn down the gain parameters, the mill starts
getting following errors, if I turn them up, the motors have hard
times calming down.

If, when the mill cannot calm down, I hit F2 (which for me inhibits
the amps), and then F2 again, the bothersome buzzing stops.

I am now thinking that I should reconsider my entire approach and use
a different mode to avoid two loops per axis.

My amplifiers offer the following modes:

1) Velocity (tachometer) mode, which is the current setting
2) Current or Torque mode (amplifier controls torque/current)
3) Voltage mode (amplifier maintains voltage)
4) IR compensation (not sure what it is exactly, probably compensated
for resistance losses in windings).

So... Would you think that I should switch to, say, torque mode or voltage mode?

Any thoughts?

- Igor

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