Just to be more clear than I was in my previous post, if that
Advantech works out of the box, which is not guaranteed, I wouldn't
expect it to work problem-free for 5 years.  Out of over 20 computers
I have bought from them, I don't think any of them have worked that
long without becoming flaky.  I have been able to nurse most of them
to 10 years, but it has taken a lot of extra effort.
Eric


On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Igor Chudov <[email protected]> wrote:
> Supermicros are great. I have a 5 1/2 year old Supermicro based server
> from Thinkmate that I keep  colocated at my ISP.
>
> The hard drive is showing errors (as they are all wont to do), but the
> box itself is great. I will soon take it home for a refit with a new
> HD and SSD and Ubuntu 10.04 (It runs Fedora at this time).
>
> Guys, what do you think about advantech boxes like this one:
>
> http://buy.advantech.com/product/industrialComputer/system-3293.htm
>
> Those are fanless, have low power consumption everything, Atom CPU,
> and take 24 VDC in.
>
> Again, I will use it for high importance, low power needs, like to
> host my CVS, be a nameserver, maybe a file server from a USB attached
> device. I want this box to last for, say, 10 years or more.
>
> i
>
> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>> What seems to kill PCs these days are bad capacitors and bad power
>> supplies.
>>
>> Hard drives simply wear out after a while.  A SSD with wear leveling
>> gets rid of that problem.
>>
>> Server grade hardware seems to last a long time - SuperMicro boards in
>> particular seem very well built.    I sold a customer over 20 systems
>> and not one motherboard has failed in 3 years.   However they have lost
>> some power supplies.
>>
>> That said, you can buy several D510MO boards for the price of a
>> SuperMicro motherboard and CPU.
>>
>> I would install a fan in the chassis.   A really good one, preferably a
>> large fan that runs at a low speed.  If the fan costs $3.00 keep
>> looking.  ;-)   That will help minimize board hotspots and keep the
>> temps down.
>>
>> Put a filter on the fan intake or plan on blowing out the computer to
>> get the dust out every year or so.
>>
>> With good parts - 3-5 years should be easy and 7 years or more likely IMO.
>>
>> The trick these days will be finding a power supply that is made to
>> last.    If you can find a mini-itx board with premium capacitors - you
>> be in even better shape.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/22/2010 12:27 AM, Igor Chudov wrote:
>>> I apologize in advance that this is somewhat off topic.
>>>
>>> I am beginning to feel a need to have a PC/server, to run Linux, that
>>> would be extremely reliable and long lasting.
>>>
>>> I would use it for
>>>
>>> 1) Holding a personal CVS repository
>>> 2) Running a nameserver
>>> 3) SSH port tunneling
>>> 4) Possibly serving files from an attached external storage device.
>>>
>>> None of the above tasks requires a great deal of CPU and file writing.
>>>
>>> I will not need a GUI on this machine.
>>>
>>> My own thinking about this includes:
>>>
>>> 1) A SSD to hold the data (as I said, I do not anticipate a lot of
>>> repetitive writes).
>>> 2) A fanless power supply
>>> 3) A very low power consumption CPU, like Intel ATOM.
>>>
>>> The objective here is low power, cool temperature, and absence of any
>>> rotating parts.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on this?
>>>
>>> Thanks guys, and again, sorry for the OT post.
>>>
>>> i
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