Hello gentlemen, regardless of this offer being serious or phoney or fraud, I think commerce will, like in other instances, spoil the character of the EMC project. So far, and I have been following this mail group for about two years, it was a playground for addicted engineers, maybe even freaks of automated machine control. In those two years, and I count 3677 mail contributions so far, their contents have changed already from a harmless intellectual or mechanical game toward commercial application problems.
I regret this process from technical to commercial money making interest. I believe that the complete freedom without economic constraints which the developers can afford is one of the main drives for the progress of development of EMC. On the long run, letting any money oriented part gain influence to EMC means restricting this freedom by pressure to drirect developing with respect to economic, not technical growth. And restricting intellectual freedom means restricted quality. This all said without looking at the question of the chances of success or failure for such a project. I used to have a lot of machines, mostly electronically controlled, in the shop I had to care for as a facility manager for many decades (mills, lathes and a 80 ton sheet metal press plus a few hundred air and water conditioning systems and other building equipment). Now and then a control system (on a mechanically sound machine) would fail and the provider had disappeared from market or was unable or unwilling to help. How often did I hear the sentence "buy a new machine, that's more economic"! Being a technical addict (and a scrooge), I had the electronics repaired some way or other, and the machine was used on. (But if there had been severe economic constraints like delivery time etc., maybe I would have reacted differently). But from my own experience, I can very well imagine the feeling of some of the EMC delelopers, say in 2007 or 8, standing in front of a electronically defective, but mechanically sound machine thinking "can't throw this machine into the junk container"! Now that this period of my life is over, for the first time, I feel free to develop my electronics and machines solely for my own private purposes. This is one of my hobbies. Therefore, I would never in my life produce hard- or software or even parts with my machines, because in this case I would lose my hobby and had to look out for a new one. I very much appreciated the idea of EMC being a free GNU-like CNC system, just like the Linux-idea and other, non-commercial projects. Leave it at that! Peter Blodow Anonymous Investor schrieb: > *Business Opportunity related to EMC2* > > EMC2 may be well written CNC control software, but it does not appear to be > making progress entering mainstream applications. We believe that the > largest impediment to success is the lack of a full scope supplier. We feel > that the mainstream machine builder community, meaning hobby, professional, > and OEM, remains outside the open source community. Furthermore, we feel > that the solution is not to try and bring machine builders into the open > source community, but rather to bring complete solutions to machine > builders. We propose the creation of a company which delivers EMC based > solutions, essentially the Red Hat of CNC. To that end, we will finance > such a company. > > > > *Perspective:* > > There are quite a few hobby oriented suppliers, based on Mach3, TurboCAD, > and other solutions, which offer everything including ballscrews, motors, > drivers, and circuit boards. These companies serve their customers well, > but they do not come up to the level of professionalism that is necessary to > attract serious commercial machine builders. > > > > There are mid-level suppliers, such as Flashcut, CamSoft, or Centroid, which > offer reasonable value but cannot provide the security, vendor independence, > or continuity of supply, which would be available with a more open > technology. Of course the 800 lb gorilla is Fanuc, having sold 2.2 million > control systems. While offering the ultimate in performance, Fanuc > solutions come with minimum vendor independence and dismal ROI for those > only needed mid-level performance. > > > > We believe a full service, professional grade supplier, offering complete > control systems solutions, can be an effective competitor and is sorely > needed by all levels of machine builders. We are not proposing open source > hardware, but rather combining open source software with support and > conventional industrial components to develop full spectrum solutions. This > is not a matter of welcoming machine builders into the open source > community; rather it is an issue of bringing the resources and value of open > source to the market, offering attractive ROI to both customers and > investor. > > > > *Details and How to Proceed:* > > We are looking to invest in a start-up business which meets the general > goals as outlined above. We will provide the majority of capital and > mentoring as needed. We will not participate in, nor attempt to control, > the day to day activities of the business. If you want this to be your > start-up business, submit a business plan to the email of Anonymous Investor > at the address [backgroundpartner at gmail.com]. All submissions will > remain confidential. There are many resources available for guidance on the > development of a business plan, Google it. There is no specific timeline > for this venture, but we will keep it open for at least 2 months. This is > not a contest; it’s an investment and a partnership. A credible plan may be > reviewed with suggestions for improvement. We have limited time for dialog > and are unlikely to answer email from those with idle curiosity. > > > > *Anti-Spam and Scam Issues:* > > The legitimacy of this opportunity should speak for itself. This offer is > only going out to the EMC email list and at no time will we ask for money, > deposits, or personal financial information. Our anonymity will be removed > for those whose negotiations appear credible and who sign non-disclosure > agreement. > > > > Yours, > > > > Anonymous Investor > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > What happens now with your Lotus Notes apps - do you make another costly > upgrade, or settle for being marooned without product support? Time to move > off Lotus Notes and onto the cloud with Force.com, apps are easier to build, > use, and manage than apps on traditional platforms. 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