Gentlemen, Heh - way OT - sorry - I just cannot resist >>Anyway taking money from the government is immoral...
> > Seriously? If that is the case then most of the nation is immoral. > If you accept a tax credit, then you are accepting money from the gov. > > The immoral part of taking money from the government is that the government has money to give away. The government (taxes under threat of violence) (takes under threat of violence) (steals under threat of violence) (synonymity here) money from each one of us and then determines what the government thinks is the best use of it and gives it away to further the goals of the government. THESE are the immoral/corrupt acts. Our government is a fraud. Our banking system is a fraud. Our legal system is a fraud. Feel free to detect a small amount of cynicism and angst in my position. Government is no longer of/by/for the people. Government (a collective term for government,banking,industry,judiciary) is taking from/exploiting the people. This is normal and history has seen this cycle many times. The driving force turning us into a 'third' (and I use this term with respect for the third world nations) is our corruption is being revealed. Now we (the general population) will have access to the corruption because it will be on top of the table rather than under the table as it has been in this system. This will make the 'corruption' fair, give each individual access AND self control it to a proper level. The EMC2 group of individuals is one of the elite groups of the world. A group that will work on a project or projects to better their life is different than so many other sets of people including many manufacturers. When an industry/group only survives or thrives because of government subsidy that industry is not a valid use of money/time/intellect. This includes some of the largest corporations/universities in the world. The sacrifice of time/money/intellect of the EMC2 group sets it apart from most of the rest of the world. I acknowledge EMC2 uses wild/free code released by the government but EMC2 could/would have been done anyway. It may have just taken longer. I personally had determined I needed a free/software machine control and was searching for just this type of project when I found EMC/EMC2. My first attempt with EMC was an abortion. I had determined to write my own (with help from people I paid) and release it. I looked at EMC again and found EMC2. This group beat me to the punch. The more I am involved with the EMC2 group the more I respect each and every player. We (I include myself in this) are the type of foundation that will be there to rebuild this country after TSHTF. What an amazing group to align yourself with. People that will get up off their butts and go do something to better themselves and others and not depend/wait on the government to come along and provide. I realize there exists an esoteric/selfish side of this group and these types of groups. I also have that attribute. Sadly, we are all human and not all perfect (I am only speaking of myself here) :) . I still believe this type of people is the best to associate with. I am sickened by the developments of our government but I also acknowledge we (this includes everyone in these United States of America) have the government we deserve/want. It will not change until our 'wanter' changes. Our collective 'wanter' is about to change and it will be dramatic. The type of people in the EMC2 group will welcome the change. MUCH of the rest will hate it. There will not be a 'government' program to provide the basics when times are tough. Get ready for a rough ride through the next few years. whew!! thanks for listening Stuart -- dos centavos ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Oracle to DB2 Conversion Guide: Learn learn about native support for PL/SQL, new data types, scalar functions, improved concurrency, built-in packages, OCI, SQL*Plus, data movement tools, best practices and more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdev2dev _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
