On Wed, 2011-03-09 at 11:45 -0500, gene heskett wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:26:57 AM Klemen Dovrtel did opine:
> 
> > Hello everybody,
> > 
> > Has anybody ever made a PWM triac control hal module/component or
> > assemble one from existing hal modules/components? There should be one
> > input signal for zero cross detector and one output signal to control
> > the triac gate.
> > 
> > If not, do you think this can this be easily done using hal?
> > 
> > Best Regards
> > Klemen
> > 
> The two reasons I would not consider using a triac in a servo are:
> 
> 1 the triac needs a zero crossing of several microseconds duration in order 
> to reliably turn off.
> 
> 2. you are married to the powerline frequency for updating the firing angle 
> because once fired its going to be on for the rest of that powerline half 
> cycle.
> 
> That is too slow for decent servo response.  One might be able to raise the 
> operating frequency to 400 hz with a motor generator but at 400 hz, I'd 
> question the safety time to get a good shutoff at the zero crossing since 
> the available reset time is much shorter at 400 hz.
> 
> This is why I'm personally in favor of a pwm driven hexfet controller, you 
> can, with adequate drive, turn one of them on or off in much less than a 
> microsecond thereby reducing the ohmic losses during the transition time, 
> which in turn allows it do so at 15K-50K times a second without excessive 
> heating, bringing real time speed control into the smaller horsepower 
> world.  My spindle speed is so stiff I gave up and put an ammeter in so I 
> could see how hard it was working, it cannot be heard to slow before the 
> fuse clears.  And this is the controller that came in my micromill, with 
> only the hexfet replaced because it wasn't adequately rated in the first 
> place.
> 
> This style of controller can be scaled up to 10 or more kw.  But it is not 
> a position servo, capable of holding a set position like a real servo can.
> 

I have 3  Fanuc servo drives (SCR) just sitting on the shelf. They are
available cheap after I take off the contactor. They need ( IIRC ) 90
volts  3ph AC and 18 v dc(?). 

Dave


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