In the same vain...  what type of mill would make a good 5 axis 
conversion??

I just bought a large rotary table with an integral servo drive and 
motor.   It has a 12" diameter slotted face plate and must weigh at 
least 6-800 lbs.

I'm looking for suggestions on what VMC might be big enough to handle a 
sizeable rotary axis like this and also
be adaptable to a tilting type head?

Basically I am trying to figure out how to put together a substantial 5 
axis mill on the cheap.

I've been working with a company that makes and purchases a lot of parts 
made on 5 axis mills and the flexibility of a 5 axis setup is impressive.

Or am I on the wrong track.    Should I just look for a 5 axis mill with 
dead controls and convert it?

Any suggestions?

Dave

On 5/3/2011 6:16 PM, Dave Caroline wrote:
> As I hand code and can therefore control direction the rotaries move I can
> cut against the play/backlash inherent in the cheap rotaries I use, often the
> B axis will be locked though for greater rigidity.
> Im mostly cutting light weight brass blanks though.
>
> A reason I hand code is I cannot afford CAM software to do the type of
> work I do.
> here the benefits of Ocode subroutines come into their own.
>
> So for a helical Im using XZ for the cut Y to cut deeper A for the
> helix rotation along
> the blank and B to set angle to get the cutter in line with the groove.
>
> so the gcode has a number of constants to set before use eg
> #<teeth>=160
> #<depth>=[.100] (cut depth adjust as needed)
> #<blank_thickness>=.25
> #<helixangle>=81
>
> then after some preamble and calculations of settings for a particular gear eg
>
> #<drop_track_center_z>=[[sin[90-#<helixangle>]]*#<blank_thickness>]
>
> then the subroutine
> O100 sub (subroutine to cut N teeth)
>   #<cnt>=0
>   O101 while [#<cnt>  lt #3]
>    G1 f4 X0 Y#2 (move to cut start)
>    G91 (set relative)
>
>    G1 F4  x[0-#4] a[0-#5] z#6
>   (M30) (stop to test if tool hits rotary table)
>
>    G0 y[0-#2]
>    G1 F50 x[#4] a#5 z[0-#6] (actual cut)
> (  G91 )(set relative)
>    G0 A#1 (rotate blank)
>    G90 (set incremental)
>    #<cnt>=[#<cnt>+1]
>   O101 endwhile
> O100 endsub
>
> then the lines
>   (B can be locked after this next line)
> G1 f60 b[0-#<helixangle>] (set helix 90 deg to cutter rotation)
> O100 call [#<angle>] [0-#<depth>] [#<teeth>]
> [0-#<drop_track_center_x>] [#<rotateangle>]
> [0-[#<drop_track_center_z>]]
>
> I leave commented lines in
> 1) to uncomment to stop the code at certain points while setting up and
> 2) to remember what I did
> I also use sensible names for the variables I hope.
>
> The touch off to get the cutter on the centreline in my case is a pain.
>
>
> Dave Caroline
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Steve<[email protected]>  wrote:
>    
>> Hi Dave:
>>
>> So when are "special kinematics" needed?  When are they not?  Are you
>> rotating your gear blank about A&B to establish the desired cutting plane,
>> locking it in that position, and then cutting with XYZ?
>>
>> Steve Van Der Loo
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 06:36:04 +0100
>> From: Dave Caroline<[email protected]>
>>
>> For certain classes of work you dont need special kinematics, I have
>> been cutting gears for clocks
>> on a mill with stacked  A on B, I hand craft the gcode though, as it
>> happens to suit the work I do.
>>
>> Dave Caroline
>>
>>
>>
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