I like the idea of having a physical switch at the end of travel, say 1/4"
past the hall, that drives the signal line as well, but in my case I use
these sensors on a variety of machines (a Sherline, a Taig, several
home-builts) so I could never design one that would always work.

That said I've never had a failure in operation (I did shear off a hall
because of an incorrect setup once)

The other thing I like about the hall based solution is there is no physical
contact, so mounting is a breeze.  In some cases I have used double-sided
foam sticky tape to mount the sensor and industrial grade double-sided tape
to mount the magnet.

DougM

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Roland Jollivet
<[email protected]>wrote:

> On 14 June 2011 23:20, Peter Loron <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 06/14/2011 08:53 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 13:47 -0700, Peter Loron wrote:
> > >> Hello, folks. Can anybody comment on using hall effect switches on a 3
> > >> axis mill for limit / home switches? Seems like they would have some
> > >> possible advantages over physical contact switches.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
> > >> -Pete
> > > My Hardinge lathe uses Hall limit and home sensors. The Z axis target
> > > magnet is small and mounted such that there is minor protection from
> > > chips. There is a small gap between the magnet and sensors when
> aligned.
> > > If chips are in the magnet area, they get wiped off, but not too small
> > > such that small chips don't bind in the gap. the magnets are weak
> enough
> > > to have largesh chips fall off. The trip location accuracy only needs
> to
> > > be within about 2 or 3mm because, in my case, the home sensor is used
> in
> > > conjunction with the screw encoder index, which should be accurate
> > > to .002mm or better. What I like about Hall sensors is that they are
> > > machining fluid proof and will practically never wear out or change the
> > > trip point or behavior over time. I tend to think using mechanical
> > > micro-switches is silly, but a lot people use them to good effect. The
> > > Hardinge Z axis uses a Hall sensor with magnet in a micro-switch
> > > housing:
> > >
> >
> http://sensing.honeywell.com/index.cfm?ci_id=154286&la_id=1&Ne=7&sid=1308EB555700&ci_id=154286&N=3591+4294966517&la_id=1
> > > Short URL: http://alturl.com/v2jzu
> > >
> > > These are mounted in a location well protected from chips, but the area
> > > is not sealed from coolant, which is fine because the sensors don't
> mind
> > > fluids.
> > >
> > > The Z sensors are in an aluminum threaded barrel similar to this one:
> > >
> >
> http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=480-3256-ND
> > > Short URL: http://alturl.com/netsd
> > >
> > > They tend to be expensive, but it should not be too difficult to
> machine
> > > a barrel and pot an IC sensor with leads into it
> >
> > Yeah, I'm going to roll my own...I have a pile of Allegro sensors here.
> > Also, retail on the Honeywell sensors is probably more that I've got
> > invested into the whole mill...  :-)
> >
> >
>
>
> The traditional way for use of these sensors is to trigger on direct
> approach.
> The problem is overshoot. If you approach in this manner, in an error
> condition, you can crush the sensor.
> However, if you mount the sensor at 90deg to a strip plate, then you
> approach the plate/leaf with a 'wiping' action. Now overshoot is not a
> problem. Also, you can have a foam or other strip, to wipe the sensor first
> on approach. One would have to experiment to see if the trigger hysteresis
> is OK using this method.
> For better homing, there really should be two sensors interlinked, a simple
> switch at end of travel, coarse, and one using an opto slot on the
> feedscrew, fine, to give a repeat homing within one or two encoder
> counts/steps.
>
> Regards
> Roland
>
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