On Saturday, July 30, 2011 07:16:16 PM Jon Elson did opine:

> gene heskett wrote:
> > Greetings all;
> > 
> > emc, on 10.04 LTS.
> > 
> > I just was greeted by an update request when I turned on the monitor,
> > so 2 sessions later it has done all the recommended up dates
> > including an as yet un-executed emc, and its rebooting now.  Logged
> > in via ssh -Y still doesn't work, but emc signed on as EMC2 -
> > 2.4.6-76-gf8ea663, not revalent to this that I know of.
> > 
> > But for several months, despite the fact that ntpd is running just
> > fine, any update done finishes with the updater showing that ntp
> > exited with a status 1.  This is regardless of whether anything to do
> > with ntp was updated or not.
> > 
> > Does anyone know what that is all about?
> > 
> > Cheers, gene
> 
> I have never gotten NTP to work reliably on a real-time system.  Of
> course, I am no expert,
> so it may be a setup problem.  But, I can imagine that the time
> correction used by NTP could
> cause real problems to a real time program, so RTAI may defeat the
> adjustments.

I can appreciate that, but when emc nor rtai are not running? It is ATM, 
and I just did an ./ntp restart to see if any errors came out, there were 
none, and the date on that box is to the second synced with this box.

So I don't /think/ that is the problem.  ntp these days may do a crash set 
call to ntpdate at bootup on most systems, but IIRC it now uses a similar 
call to what 'adjtimex' does, which diddles the count per second, which if 
the mobo crystal is on spec, 10000/sec.  I have had mobo's that I had to 
set it for 9998 in order to get it within reach of ntp keeping it there.  
But ntpd itself is now using a wider ranging method albeit it is still 
tuning the oscillator by only 1% maybe.  Its control hasn't had discrete 
time jumps in 2 or 3 years now.

I think the point is that when the updater runs, it apparently must be 
doing something that I, as root, cannot trigger in normal use, so I am 
inclined to point fingers at the updater, not ntpd.
 
> Jon
> 
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Cheers, gene
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