On Sunday, October 09, 2011 10:07:26 PM andy pugh did opine:

> On 10 October 2011 01:46, Steve Blackmore <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Fused plugs are a really good idea, and essential with the way we wire
> > using ring mains :)
> 
> I think that is two correct but unconnected statements.
> 
> The plug fuse is intended to protect the appliance flex (the device
> should be internally fused, if it matters). The idea is that a short
> in the appliance can't burn out the flex between the plug and
> appliance.
> The main circuit is protected in the same way by the main breaker, and
> the incomer is protected by the 100A fuse in the box we can't touch
> 
> :-)
> 
> The thing is, that the main breaker for the circuit is sized for the
> ring main capacity, and ring mains are bad. (oddly, this was one of
> the long running arguments with my ex. She seemed to think because she
> used to work for MK that her opinions were of more value than mine.)
> The problem is that whilst they can give you twice the capacity for
> the same wire size, there is no way to detect a wire break which
> halves that capacity.

And IIRC, our NEC prohibits that, for exactly that reason on my side of the 
pond.

> I do follow my dad's protocol of not actually breaking the wire at the
> sockets (he strips the wire in the middle, leaving an unbroken
> conductor)
> 
> So, I agree that the plug fuse can protect a dodgy ring main, but it
> is in the wrong place to do that by design.
> 
> If I wire a house I would wire a ring using spur-rated wire CSA, I
> think. Just in case.


Cheers, Gene
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