On 12.01.12 02:22, gene heskett wrote:
> But, now there is a new CadSoft Eagle problem for all of us that renders
> the whole project moot.
> 
> Apparently my freebie copy of eagle has timed out, the screen it opens 
> is about 75% transparent and extremely bleached out, rendering it unusable.

Gene, I just went back to an older Eagle version:

-rwxr-xr-x 1 erik erik 14120824 2010-06-07 13:10 /opt/eagle_5.10/bin/eagle*

Although 18 months old, it works fine. I just opened a design, viewed
the schematic, and did a ratsnest on the board. Is it possible that you
selected sub-optimally at the licencing menu? (e.g. "licence later"?,
rather than the "run unlicenced", or whatever the actual text is? The
former seems an invitation to time-out.)

> And I rarely use it, generally only for a viewer because I've never
> figured out how to use it (and the freebies undo never worked either)

On all of the three or four versions of Eagle that I've used over the
years, undo has always worked fine, going back dozens of changes, when
I've paddled up some murky backwater, and regretted it.

I'll admit that I didn't initially find its way of doing things even
slightly intuitive. The pdf manuals are really needed, I find.
On the other hand, we've had Eagle howto questions on this list before,
so I assume we can again. For a more specific community, there's the
Cadsoft-hosted newsgroup, described on their website. They'll also be
able to tell if you're not holding your mouth right.

> So I went and downloaded the newest freebie version, but when I do the usual
> "wine name_of_program.exe" to install it,

That's probably doing it the hard way. This sufficed for me:

$ ./eagle-lin-5.10.0.run

> the install bails out, claiming it needs a libpng14.so but mine is
> 12.so.  So I check the dvd's I just burnt of the just released 2 weeks
> ago CENTOS-6.2.  Opps, same library. Looking at my uptodate 10.04 LTS
> install, it also has libpng12.so.

The distro's deficiency can apparently be remedied by following a few
entertainingly convoluted steps:

http://www.eaglecentral.ca/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=143191&3b4682b80e9a52b3ab0b1e296be8b731/

> I have to assume that is intentional.

I don't know that centos intentionally omitted the latest libpng, so
can't say.

> That was last friday so I wrote CadSoft an email asking what linux
> distribution was using that bleeding edge of a libpng.so library.  And 
> of course no reply since there is no support for the freebie version.

a) I've had free support from Cadsoft for the freebie version, in
   response to product-specific questions. The support was so helpful
   that I was moved to buy their hardcopy manual, in token thanks.

b) There is also the newsgroup, which I've found great for more involved
   discussions.

c) The above link seems to show yet another eagle forum, providing a
   third source of advice.

The lack of reply might have been because it's a very simple LMGTFY?
(CadSoft Support is active in that forum, so you'll have both community
and vendor support in one place.)

Would electrically-heated fleece-lined boots maybe allow you to relax in that
frigid workshop long enough to deal with the hassles of being an early
adopter? :-)

For the moment, I'm sticking with my 18 month old Eagle, since I'm used
to it. (And I don't want the upgrade workload you're banging into. ;-)

Erik

-- 
Wizards had always known that the act of observation changed the thing that   
was observed, and sometimes forgot that it also changed the observer too.     
                                   Terry Pratchett  -  Interesting times 


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