I need to find the start of this thread. i am running a G540, an Intel 
M525MW board with Probotix steppers motors and all 3 axes move fine. I 
just need to calibrate them for proper distance and get the homing Hall 
effect sensors connected.I am not running the charge pump enabled in the 
G540. Am I missing something?

Gary K8IZ

On 4/15/2012 8:38 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 21:37 -0400, gene heskett wrote:
> ... snip
>> What happens if the pump frequency is reduced to say 10% of what its set at
>> now?
> I haven't tried that. If I disconnect the G540 so there is no load on
> the parallel port pin, the charge pump is a clean square wave. I used
> 10x on the probe, if that makes a difference (I know just enough
> scopenese to get by).
>
>> Looking at the scope traces, either the probe is way out of calibration
>> against the scopes own test square wave, or the 540 has a low value series
>> resistor, 33-120 ohm range, with several hundred pf on the other side of
>> the resistor as a noise filter on that input, and likely on all inputs
>> since engineers have a tendency to 'step&  repeat' for that stuff.
> I tried to trace the traces on the G540. From the pump input wire
> terminal, the trace goes right to an unmarked SMT capacitor. The other
> side goes to the center of a three pin SMT something-or-other. My guess
> is it is a transistor, maybe. Another of the three pins goes to the
> opto-isolator. I gave up tracing at that point.
>
>> I can't believe you would long tolerate a probe that far out of adjustment
>> Kirk, so that leaves the 540 apparently suffering from way too much noise
>> filtering on that input.  So the pumping frequency is so high the capacitor
>> used for noise filtering never has a chance to either fully charge, or to
>> fully discharge.  So you get insufficient swing.
> The G540 manual specs a 10kHz minimum, so the filter doesn't need to
> pass the low end. The large C is a bit of a mystery so far. One thing
> that stands out to me is the rising edge is near vertical until about 2
> Volts then dog legs up. I expected to have a continuous smooth curve
> from O Volts until 5 Volts or when the pin switches.
>
>> So drop the pump frequency to 10-20% of what it is now just for effects,
>> would be my advice.  If it drops out because the pump is then too slow, the
>> 540 needs a redesign tweak, at least according to Gene. :)
>>
>> Cheers, Gene
> My favorite fix so far is to recomend a buffer board on the parallel
> port. It's the only thing a user could add that would cover most every
> parallel port and the G540. A user would have a harder time fixing the
> G540 or the port. I need to find a loose buffer card around here and try
> that next. While I'm at it I'll check too see what happens with a slower
> pump.
>
>


-- 
Gary Fiber K8IZ
GROL PG-19-6691 with shipboard radar endorsement
Washington State resident


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