I can't honestly say if the lights are the same, but I'll notice from 
now on. BTW, the bottom 4 leds were lit up on the infeed unit the last 
time I checked after a fault.

The unit itself does have a fan plus a fan in the door in front of the 
611. The internal fan was pretty gummed up when I replaced the 
capacitors in the infeed unit. I'll see if I can see the fan with a 
mirror to see if it is running. The internal fan was on the heat sink 
for the mosfet's or something that looked like that.

John

On 6/3/2012 9:06 AM, Dave wrote:
> Are the lights on the infeed unit when a drive fault occurs identical to
> what you saw before?
>
>   >>So now I'm thinking that there might be an actual problem in the
>
> infeed unit because once it starts to trip out if I reset the machine
> and start running again it trips out real fast.<<
>
> This sounds like a thermal issue.  Once it cools off it is good for a while.  
> But until it cools off it trips out immediately.
>
> Does your infeed unit have a fan in it?  Is it working?  If not, open the 
> cabinet and aim a room fan at the unit and see if you can get more time out 
> of it.  Or better yet attach a fan to the bottom or top of it to blow some 
> air through it.  A larger pancake type fan would work.
>
> If the fan in the infeed unit is working ok, the infeed waveform distortion 
> might be causing some issues in the Infeed unit, or you might have some weak 
> components.
>
> Sounds to me like you are close to solving these problems if you can get an 
> hour our of it.
>
> Still, a drive isolation transformer might clear up these problems entirely 
> (assuming the infeed unit is not malfunctioning)
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/3/2012 9:08 AM, John Thornton wrote:
>> Currently with the 10hp idler and the Samson lathe running as a second
>> idler and the 611 in the BP 308 on I have the voltage balanced at 245
>> between all three phases give or take one volt. The VMC will make parts
>> and run at 2k with full rapid speeds or ramp up with G code to 6k and
>> run about an hour or so before the drive trips out. Turning off
>> everything for a while and whatever caused the trip seems to mend
>> itself. So now I'm thinking that there might be an actual problem in the
>> infeed unit because once it starts to trip out if I reset the machine
>> and start running again it trips out real fast.
>>
>> Monitoring the generated phase voltage while running and during rapid
>> moves of Z I see no more than one volt variation. So that seems pretty
>> stiff to me.
>>
>> The spindle and axes are all Siemens AC servos. If I changed to a VFD
>> then I would loose my tool changer which would suck. I'd be more
>> inclined to buy another VMC that didn't have a Siemens Simodrive 611
>> than try and mod this one, then sell the Discovery 308 on flea bay. The
>> sad part is I have more $ invested in BT30 tooling than I care to think
>> about so that clouds the issue of getting rid of the 308 for another VMC.
>>
>> I plan on calling Siemens back to see if there is anything I might do to
>> reduce the sensitivity of the drive. The one thing that sticks in the
>> back of my mind is how crappy the wave form was when I removed the
>> commutating reactor from the circuit... anyway a lot to wonder about.
>>
>> Thanks
>> John
>>
>> On 6/2/2012 1:50 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
>>

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