Thanks Tom.
A graphical design of HAL components connections is anyway useful and I
think that many LinuxCNC users/integrators would like to have a reliable
tool for this.
I hope that this feature will be available soon :-)
But the Rockhopper is a nice discover for me.

Regards
Alex


On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Tom Easterday <tom-...@bgp.nu> wrote:

> You don't have to run Rockhopper all the time (which is the source of my
> problem).  You can just launch it from the command line and connect to it
> with a web browser when you want to do a hal graph.  If you launch
> Rockhopper after Linuxcnc is running you will never see the error I have.
>  Rockhopper is completely independent of Linuxcnc so run it, do your hal
> graph, and then exit it.
>
> The graphical layout of hal is great for designing, or debugging a
> configuration as you can easily trace all the logic.  Very complicated hal
> configurations will not work so well as the graphviz algorithm that does
> the layout will begin to merge lines when a node has many inputs coming to
> it.  We would like to add a better graphing algorithm at some point but we
> could only find expensive commercial ones with distribution issues.  A
> schematic algorithm, like Ed is using in Eagle, would do a better job of
> not running lines on top of each other, etc.
>
> -Tom
>
> On Jun 18, 2013, at 3:41 AM, alex chiosso <achio...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi people.
> > Reading this mail I discovered "Rockhopper python interface" feature that
> > honestly I have never heard before.
> > First of all it seems to be very useful.
> > It shows the hal file component connections graphically.
> > Is this feature available independently from "Rockhopper python
> interface" ?
> > I mean is there any way/procedure to show the hal files in a graphical
> way
> > without install the full "Rockhopper python interface" ?
> > Is there any way to design a hal file graphically ?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Alex
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Tom Easterday <tom-...@bgp.nu> wrote:
> >
> >> So, it turns out this isn't a disk problem at all but a problem in our
> >> Rockhopper python interface that I have running by default on these
> >> machines.  It is calling halcmd  repeatedly and if Linuxcnc tries to
> launch
> >> during this time bad things happen.  This is one of the items on the
> agenda
> >> at Wichita so hopefully we may have a resolution (or beginnings of)
> soon.
> >>
> >> Reinstalling everything from scratch is how I discovered it, so this
> was a
> >> helpful exercise.
> >>
> >> Tom
> >>
> >> On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Dave <e...@dc9.tzo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Another option is to get a copy of 10.04 and install that (that should
> >>> give you the format option).  Then download the LinuxCNC install script
> >>> and do the install via the script via an internet connection.
> >>>
> >>> I think I did that the last time I did a fresh install and that worked
> >>> fine.
> >>>
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 6/17/2013 10:37 AM, Tom Easterday wrote:
> >>>> On Jun 17, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Dave<e...@dc9.tzo.com>  wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I'm fairly certain that when you boot the liveCD and then choose to
> >>>>> install the system that it goes through the normal Linux install
> >> process
> >>>>> that includes formatting the drive.
> >>>>>
> >>>> I am running the LiveCD install again and it does not give you the
> >> option to format the drive in any specific filesystem.  Just lets you
> >> select a disk and if there is already something there it will
> (presumably)
> >> partition the disk and install them side by side.  But, there are no
> >> options, menus, etc to let you pick a drive format.  So, I am installing
> >> again with whatever the default is, probably EXT4....
> >>>>
> >>>> -Tom
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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