On Monday 04 November 2013 03:23:59 John Kasunich did opine:
> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013, at 02:31 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Sunday 03 November 2013 13:56:49 John Kasunich did opine:
> > > You really need to get familiar with the McMaster Carr website.
> > > They tend to sell decent quality stuff, and even if you are so far
> > > back in the woods that they have to ship in sunshine, I'm sure UPS
> > > will deliver. (In fact, UPS probably brings in the sunshine.)
> > > McMaster ships from Aurora Oh, so it is probably only 2 days from
> > > you.
> >
> > While I have bought some stuff from McMaster Carr, its more because
> > they may be the only ones stocking what I need. Either way their
> > prices are astoundingly high. Take a nook bronze nut for 1/2" 10 tpi
> > ACME thread, with a 3/4" OD, 11 tpi thread (IIRC) on the outside, so
> > you can use two and adjust easily for very low backlash. 8 or 9
> > years ago when I bought them and a stick of black oxide coated, 1/2
> > 10 tpi acme rod, those 3 pieces were just south of $175. And UPS
> > bent the bolt, about 1/8" in its length. I straightened it as best I
> > could and used it. I should have bought a Chinese ball screw for
> > about that money. A longer one for the lathe was only $138 delivered
> > to my front deck this past summer.
>
> This discussion was originally about taps, and you not being able to
> get what you need from the local hardware store. Good luck getting
> acme threaded rod or nuts there. Yes, the acme nuts from McMaster
> aren't cheap. For that, you find someone who specialized in Acme
> nuts (or get ballscrews from ebay).
>
> > They may have it, but their search engine sucks, worst in the business
> > and if you do manage to find it, they are 2x to 4x too proud of it in
> > the $/item column.
>
> I just went there, typed in "taps". Got me four pictures, "taps", "tap
> cabinets", "tap holders", and "helical insert taps". Clicked on taps,
> got a sidebar with a list of thread sizes end such. Clicked on 8-32,
> got a list of types. Clicked on spiral point, and got a full page of
> taps, ranging from high-speed steel in black oxide or bright for $6.20
> each, coated taps for hardened steel up to C40 for $8.82, high
> performance vanadium steel with various coatings from $11 to $22 (the
> $22 one is designed for production tapping in hardened steel), cobalt
> steel for $8.17, and at the gold plated end of the scale, solid carbide
> for $102.
Yikes! I have a 45yo 6-48 in carbide, seems like I took it off Dave
Hardies hands for a $20 bill in the mid 60's. No use even thinking about
drilling and tapping to mount a scope on an Eddystone made Enfield P17
without carbide tooling, and then you have to spot the drill with a dremel
using a white stone. But given the relative fragility of the carbide, I've
not felt I needed anything but HSS recently. I bought a 5 pack of 0-80's
for attaching the cocking handle for my locking bolt conversion of the
Black Diamond, used them to attach the brass handle to the tool steel
(untreated) locking bar/latch, works well, very clean precise holes, seems
like they were about $6 each. Bought a miniature die too, but have never
used it.
> Clicking on spiral flute instead of spiral point gets you a similar
> selection. Spiral flute works better in blind holes, but I prefer
> spiral point whenever I can possibly design for a thru hole.
>
> I've used their plain old HSS taps (the $6.20 ones) and have had
> great results. I don't know what you consider too expensive for
> a tap, but I'm satisfied.
I was just there last nite to refresh my memory, and also found a huge
improvement. That last time I was there, the only search term that
actually worked was the exact part number from their catalog. They must
have finally hired a webmaster worth his paycheck.
Cheers, Gene
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