In our first attempt to make the spindle encoder for the K&T - we grabbed a 
timing gear that we had 2 of..  (Something from some old printers we took apart 
(70's vintage probably).  Well - when we got all done we could not find a belt 
to match the pitch.  We gave up and used different timing gears that we knew 
fit a common belt.

unknown gear...
http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/testing/DSCF1231.JPG

sam


On Tue, 11 Mar 2014 09:27:30 -0400
 John Kasunich <jmkasun...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014, at 11:09 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
> > Damn John, I just counted it twice more and got 31 both times.
> > At a top of the tooth diameter of 1.803, where the heck does that leave 
> > us/me?
> > 
> > 
> > The smaller driver pulley, is .976" across the top of the teeth, and 17 
> > teeth, .388" between the flanges.  So a .375 wide belt will fit, as will a 
> > 9.5mm wide belt.  But a 10mm  will be pinched until it burns up the flange 
> > anyway.
> > 
> 
> OK, we have two data points: 17 teeth and 0.976 OD, and 31 teeth with
> an OD of 1.803.
> 
> We also have two unknowns, the belt pitch and the distance from the 
> OD to the pitch line.  That should be solvable. Wait a bit while I try to
> do math.
> 
> OK, math done.  The pitch comes out to 0.1855", which has me mystified,
> because I've never heard of such a thing.  (I've done a fair bit if tooth-
> belt research for different projects.)
> 
> I did some googling for 3/16" pitch belts.  I stumbled across a few
> similar tales of woe on various forums.  Eastern lathes with belts of
> approximately 3/16" pitch, and nobody able to find spares.
> 
> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/general-metal-working-machines/112495-timing-belt-available-lathe.html
> http://madmodder.net/index.php/topic,5006.msg56077.html?PHPSESSID=tef5o88m42hje4vlt64jolptb2#msg56077
> 
> One person said:
> >> I believe that Roman is correct on the 3/16" pitch. This is an old
> >> design from the 50's or 60's and was know as an F profile. There
> >> were never any standard sizes and molds were just purchased
> >> for a specific OE project. The bad news is that very few F profile
> >> belts are still available and would not be something that an
> >> industrial distributor would be able to get for you. 
> 
> Why a fairly modern Chinese lathe would be using a 50 year old 
> inch belt type is another mystery, although someone in one of
> those threads speculated that the Chinese factory either had a
> big stock of belts, or had the mandrel that is used to make the 
> belts.
> 
> At this point I'm pretty sure it is NOT any modern standard 
> belt profile.  How hard would it be to replace the pulleys?
> XL profile is probably the most readily available and cheapest.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
>   John Kasunich
>   jmkasun...@fastmail.fm
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