On Sat, Oct 4, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Ron Ginger <rongin...@roadrunner.com> wrote:

> One of the complaints often heard about LinuxCNC is that it is
> controlled by a small group of programmers and the only things they add
> are things they like/want. They make the holy pronouncement that "if you
> like you can always do it yourself and we will consider it for
> inclusion".

I have included things in my LinuxCNC that are not included in the
repository. I am not sure if any have been offered. I am not trying to hide
them. I have shared them freely with anyone wishing them.
That being said, I have asked for and received MUCH help in developing
these additions of mine. The 'holy programmers' did not try to guide me
away from my modifications. The 'holy programmers' were VERY helpful with
any question I asked.
:) I expect some of the help was a result in the 'holy programmers' not
wanting my dreadful code presented as a possible inclusion whether it
worked or not! :)


> So even if a person has the ability to do the code it may or
> may not be included. The reality is that it is very difficult for a
> person not a trained software engineer to do the modifications to
> something as complex as LinuxCNC.
>
My reality as a non programmer is the 'holy programmers' will help you
develop what you want. You must realize their help is gratis (free) unless
you have a specific contract with one of them to complete a project. The
"holy programmer's" time is important to them. Maybe even more important
than helping you (or me) immediately but rest assured their help will be
afforded you far more quickly than any private industrial control team
can/will respond.
My response to anyone wishing to have a function/feature is to ask how to
do it and follow the instructions. You will find the 'holy programmers' and
others are very helpful in determining where you are on the programming
scale and guiding you through the process. Just remember though, it is
doubtful you will have them hold your hand and/or do it for you.
Just start and have fun with it.


> Who represents the view that a feature is common in industrial controls,
> so it ought to be in linuxCNC, even if the now very old NIST effort to
> create a standard did not include it? If this were a commercial product
> some marketing person would write a product requirement, the programmers
> would make it happen and the industrial users would be pleased.
>
I would expect many marketing persons have submitted proposals of
requirements in which the proposals of requirements have not been
implemented in the software/hardware of the product.

just sayin


>
> ron ginger
>
>
> On 10/4/2014 1:47 PM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
> > Some programmers have strong negative feelings about the GOTO
> instruction.
> > Some really horrendous code has been written with the help of the GOTO
> instruction.
> > Extensive use of the GOTO instruction is generally associated with bad
> programming practices.
>
>
>
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thanks
Stuart


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