On 12/01/2014 10:04 AM, andy pugh wrote:
> Wikipedia led me to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elixir_sulfanilamide 
> which is interesting, and does rather suggest that your FDA is necessary. 

The FDA now does little to ensure product safety, but they do add 
millions to the cost of drug development.  They refer to the large 
pharmaceutical companies as "our customers" in internal documents. 
They're essentially a big government bureaucracy that has formed a 
symbiotic relationship with large pharmaceutical companies.  The FDA 
bureaucracy benefits as their government jobs are justified, and Big 
Pharma benefits by having a barrier to entry for smaller competitors 
that are unable to run the expensive and convoluted FDA regulatory maze.

In the above example, the large pharmaceutical company Massengill paid a 
very small fine for negligently marketing their sulfanilamide product 
that killed a hundred people (many of them were children). The small 
fine was levied because the product was marketed as an elixir but 
contained no alcohol.  Apparently, there was no fine for including a 
toxic substance that killed people.

But things got better after the FDA, and the FDA approved products were 
safe.  Right?  The list of unsafe drugs approved by the FDA would fill 
an encyclopedia.  Here is but one gruesome example.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide#Birth_defects_crisis

In the US, you're likely to see a vaguely worded televised ad during the 
evening news, urging you to "ask your doctor if Xycomax may be right for 
you."  The FDA prohibits drug companies from marketing directly to 
consumers, but Big Pharma spends BILLIONS every year on 
direct-to-consumer ads, but they need to be properly vague, with an 
entire industry of lawyers and marketing agents to facilitate these 
ads.  Two weeks later, you'll see a televised ad, after midnight, with 
some sleazy lawyer.  "Have you taken Xycomax and had kidney failure, 
hair loss, or depression?  Call us and we can get you a big check!"  For 
all of the justifiable complaining about ambulance chasing lawyers and 
their rip-off class action lawsuits where the victims get pennies and 
the lawyers get millions, these weasel lawyers do more to ensure the 
safety of drugs marketed in the US than the FDA.


On 12/01/2014 11:28 AM, dave wrote:
> I do believe di-ethylene-glycol and ethylene glycol are the same thing.

Nope.

Ethylene glycol - C_2 H_6 O_2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene_glycol


Diethylene glycol - C_4 H_10 O_3
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diethylene_glycol


Back On Topic:

A few of the hobby and small business entrepreneur machinists on YouTube 
(Grimsmo Knives, Tactical Keychains, WarMachine) are posting videos of 
improvements they've made to their coolant systems. Typically, the 
coolant drains through one or two settling tanks where the big chips are 
removed.  There is often a coarse filter, sometimes a fine screen, and 
sometimes a disposable 5 gallon bucket paint strainer.  Next in line is 
a high pressure pump, often a Little Giant pond pump.  After the pump is 
a "whole house water filter" (search Amazon.com for examples) to catch 
the fine chips that pass through the pump, to prevent the tiny chips in 
the flood coolant from being re-cut and reducing the life of carbide 
tooling. a 20 micron filter provides good filtration for this purpose 
without too much pressure drop.  Apparently, Qualichem synthetic 
coolants are well regarded.

http://www.qualichem.com/metalworking-fluids





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