On Thursday 18 December 2014 09:43:07 Mark Wendt did opine
And Gene did reply:
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@wdtv.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday 18 December 2014 07:03:14 John Thornton did opine
> > 
> > And Gene did reply:
> > > I've used Gedit since 2006 with no bugs or trashed files...
> > > 
> > > JT
> > 
> > I have saved a .hal file, tried to reload lcnc and gotten a screen
> > full of errors several times.
> > 
> > On reloading the file, I have found whole paragraphs of stuff from
> > near the end of the file, duplicated in the middle of the loadrt or
> > addf phases of the file.  Those are easy to fix as they are obvious.
> >  But when it inserts a paragraph of page 8 of the file, into the
> > line of code configuring a function 8 or so stanza's of code after
> > the addf's are done, it gets exasperating to fix.  While carving up
> > the ini and hal files for my lathe, I expect I wasted 2 full days
> > repairing that sort of damage.  I got to the point before I went
> > searching for an editor, of printing every save so I had hard copy
> > one generation back as a recovery tool.
> > 
> > Writing a couple hundred lines of gcode was the same story. I spent
> > 50% of my time restoring what I had already written.
> > 
> > So I figured that the one thing linux had going for it was at least
> > 20 ways to skin the editor function. The first suggestion offered by
> > synaptic when I entered "text editor" was geany, so I installed it. 
> > Some minor diffs in the gui but otherwise acts like gedit, but has
> > not trashed a file for me yet.
> > 
> > For me, it Just Works(TM) for everything but the printing from its
> > menu, but then gedit is similarly broken.  So if I need a printout
> > on dead
> > 
> > trees, its back to the old standard:
> >  lp -dBROTHEHL2140 -olandscape filename
> > 
> > I have a vi clone I use on the CoCo's so I am also fairly familiar
> > with vi/vim, but there are several things it does well but much
> > slower, like scrolling the screen to where you want to work, so
> > while I could use vim, I found gedit/geany buckets faster at, and
> > when I am fighting with something the editor ought to have a scroll
> > bar to do, its distracting and destroys my instant train of thought.
> >  That could be construed to be a sign of my age, but if so, its been
> > a problem for 35 years or more.
> > 
> > Anyway, that is why I've come to hate gedit.
> 
> Well, there's always Xemacs.

Mark, I tend to agree with the pundits that say emacs might be a good 
operating system, but it needs an editor capable to being used without a 2 
year community college degree to learn how to use it.

So in that sense I am clueless, and might as well stay that way since 
there are some who would want to recall my University of Hard Knocks 
degree if I did that as it would disqualify me.

One of the hard and fast rules for that degree is that no education above 
public school is allowed.  And I don't even have the usual 12 years worth 
of that.  Got a G.E.D. though, just for the hell of it. I'd taken the test 
because the wife, who has a degree in music, felt bad that she couldn't 
introduce me as a such and such to her college buddies, and I didn't hear 
for a couple weeks so I collared the test admin about it, and his reply 
was "Why do you care, you were just doing it for the exercise, weren't 
you?"

Got it in the mail a few days later. ;-)  Sometimes you need to nudge the 
sleeping dog & let him know you are still there.

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Cheers, Gene Heskett
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