If their company is anything like most, the person who wrote the add you were 
quoting, had nothing to do with putting together the "controller package" (and 
probably knows little about it) and through miscommunications, and creative 
license, some half truths, crept in.  I am sure the errors in the add were 
completely unintentional.  And I would hope that they would be corrected once 
they are brought to the attention of someone with the authority to fix them.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Layne" <linux...@thinkingdevices.com>
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 6:44:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] PathPilot (what hardware?)

The way the upgrades were described, the hardware sounded very MESA-ish, 
so I wasn't surprised to see that it was.  However, Tormach does seem to 
be interested in conveying the impression that the software and hardware 
were created by Tormach.

http://www.tormach.com/blog/pathpilot-beta-testing

Our own development work began in earnest 4 years ago. During that time, 
we’ve
made substantial improvements to the underlying source code to make 
PathPilot a
viable commercial product. These include a revamped trajectory planner,
improvements to the G-Code interpreter, a new operator interface, onboard
conversational programming, and a host of other enhancements.

PathPilot, however, is not just software. It is also new dedicated hardware
“inside the box” designed specifically for motion control, along with 
complete
documentation, and end-user support. Unlike our previous generation 
controller,
PathPilot is a fully integrated and purpose-designed CNC motion control 
platform
for Tormach products.


They do admit that LinuxCNC is the underlying software, but claim they 
made substantial improvements, when they apparently paid for open source 
code to be developed by someone else.  That's possibly splitting hairs, 
but I'm not sure if I'm the one splitting hairs, or the Tormach 
marketing department.  In the second paragraph quoted above, they imply 
that they "developed new dedicated hardware" that is "a fully integrated 
and purpose-designed CNC motion control platform for Tormach products."  
Given the availability of high quality and low cost off-the-shelf 
hardware, they'd be crazy to develop their own.  I suspect their 
contribution is the "complete documentation, and end-user support."

Tormach users will be very well served by LinuxCNC software and MESA 
Electronics hardware, but I think it's interesting that Tormach seems to 
feel the need to imply that they did the development. They're a fairly 
small company and they do a lot of good development, but they must feel 
that they can't allow a market impression that they are integrators, 
putting together tools that others provide.  Does anyone know if they 
created their nice looking graphical front end, or did they subcontract 
that as well?  It's fine by me either way, but I am curious.

Maybe Brian Williams took a job as the marketing director at Tormach.  
If they blog about their helicopter being shot down behind enemy lines, 
and using a PCNC 770 to manufacture the parts they needed to repair the 
helicopter, I'm calling BS.  :-)





On 02/18/2015 05:50 AM, Andrew wrote:
> 2015-02-18 12:34 GMT+02:00 Belli Button <be...@iafrica.com>:
>
>> I'm more curious about the hardware, do you think they are using 5i25 from
>> Mesa or is it something of their own?
>>
>> It's MESA.
> Look at http://www.tormach.com/document_direct_download.html?doc_id=893 ,
> Figure 6
>
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> Andrew
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