As an older, not that aware, blonde, Polish, left handed, engineeer..... I 
can't keep track of more than one thing at a time. Out of self defense working 
on PLC's and yes discrete hard wire ladder logic in machine tools, (since about 
1965), I only use normally open switches with PLC's. It reduces the task to 
something that I can understand. The exception to this rule is the safety loop, 
which should consist of nothing but normally closed switches, which is never 
tied into the PLC anyway, or it shouldn't be, my apologies to Pilz and a few 
others that make intrinsically safer PLC's. 
Invert the signals in one logic level only! When you are working to a deadline 
to get a piece of equipment running again, there are enough 
stress/distractions, don't make the task more difficult. A further concern that 
comes to mind is whether another person can follow you and do the repair? And 
if the repair/upgrade happened more than two weeks ago, that person is you! and 
you won't remember what you did, so you will have to relearn the logic 
More self defense.... I only use power on timers in PLCs, if I need something 
else, I build it in the PLC logic, it does no one any service to combine timer 
types in a single PLC program to save a few lines of programming. 
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3. Re: Ladder logic documentation [Was: Simple, adjustable 
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4. Anyone remember the Purdue CAD-LAB? (Gregg Eshelman) 
5. Re: Anyone remember the Purdue CAD-LAB? (andy pugh) 
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Message: 1 
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 12:25:55 -0400 
From: "TonyZPP" <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - 1.5.3 
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller \(EMC\)" 
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Bertho, 

Thank you for continuing to support your program, GCMC, and for keeping 
it current. I use it often. It has served me well. 

Tony 


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Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 6:42 AM 
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Subject: [Emc-users] gcmc - 1.5.3 

Hi All, 

A new version 1.5.3 of gcmc has been released. 

This release is a bugfix release and fixes relative movement. The 
movement would be calculated twice if the destination was within 1e-12 
(epsilon) of zero, resulting in the wrong path. 

You can get the new version from the homepage: 
http://www.vagrearg.org/content/gcmc 

As usual, let me know if you encounter bugs or have any questions or wishes. 

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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 20:16:40 +0100 
From: Bertho Stultiens <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - 1.5.3 
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On 03/23/2015 05:25 PM, TonyZPP wrote: 
> Thank you for continuing to support your program, GCMC, and for keeping 
> it current. I use it often. It has served me well. 

You are welcome. I love to fix gcmc's bugs(*) and implement useful 
features. The more users, the better it gets ;-) 



(*) That is, fix it when I do not have to hide in shame for some bad 
code I produced when my mind took off on a tangent. Luckily, that does 
not happen too often. 

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Message: 3 
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:59:04 -0600 
From: Gregg Eshelman <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Ladder logic documentation [Was: Simple, 
adjustable timer] 
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On 3/23/2015 7:37 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: 
> On 23.03.15 08:33, Mark Wendt wrote: 
>> 
>> So, following that logic, "off" is "on," and "on" is "off." ;-) 
> 
> Taking such facetiousness at face value, I think the real situation is: 
> 
> "OFF" is "on" and "off", and "ON" is "on" and "off" 
> where OFF/ON is input, and on/off is output, with no and nc contacts 
> simply being the complement of each other. 

Sounds like a meditation mantra from an old SciFi book, I have it 
somewhere, can't recall the author or title right now... note the 
capitalization... 

Is Not is not Not Is. 
Not Is is not Is Not. 

If Is is Is Not and Is Not is Is then Is is Not Is... 

IIRC it had something to do with reality VS one's perception of reality 
and getting rid of misperceptions that limit one's potential. 

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Message: 4 
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:31:47 -0600 
From: Gregg Eshelman <[email protected]> 
Subject: [Emc-users] Anyone remember the Purdue CAD-LAB? 
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
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Circa 1999 Purdue University's CAD-LAB developed some CAD/CAM software 
for Windows, Macintosh and Linux I'd like to obtain copies of. The main 
reason I'd like to get that is because some of it was written 
specifically for a proLIGHT PLM2000. The tutorial showing how to use the 
software is very interesting - but without the software it only makes me 
look grimly at the old DOS program and wish for LCNC support for the 
PLM2000. (Or support from *any* somewhat modern machine control software.) 

Being open source, recovering it should be of some benefit at large for 
CAD/CAM development. 

archive.org saved the website and some of the documentation but not the 
software due to their FTP server having a robots'txt file at the root 
level. Since then the university has completely altered their public FTP 
(what little there is of it) and nothing from then is there. The 
functions of the CAD-LAB have been spread around the engineering department. 

It doesn't matter if a robots.txt expressly permits spiders, crawlers 
and archivers (which Purdue's did), archive.org will not save anything 
from any site or server at or below the level where a robots.txt file is. 

As for getting G-code that works on the PLM2000, I've successfully used 
Heeks with the LCNC post process option, have to comment out the G43 it 
insists upon inserting and I have to edit the feed rate, which for some 
reason it always sets at 4 IPM no matter what I select in the GUI. Eh, 
it's a work in progress and only cost $15 for the no-nag version. At 
least I can cut metal in fancy shapes! :) 

The major difference between the Animatics and Fanuc controllers Light 
Machines used is Animatics defaults to incremental arc centers (put a $ 
in the NC file to switch to absolute) while the later Fanuc model 
defaults to absolute arc centers (add a % to the NC file to switch to 
incremental). 

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Message: 5 
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 14:19:16 +0000 
From: andy pugh <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Anyone remember the Purdue CAD-LAB? 
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
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On 24 March 2015 at 04:31, Gregg Eshelman <[email protected]> wrote: 
> it only makes me 
> look grimly at the old DOS program and wish for LCNC support for the 
> PLM2000 

Have you made any progress on sniffing the communication protocol? 

-- 
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Message: 6 
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 18:04:59 -0600 
From: Gregg Eshelman <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Anyone remember the Purdue CAD-LAB? 
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
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On 3/24/2015 8:19 AM, andy pugh wrote: 
> On 24 March 2015 at 04:31, Gregg Eshelman <[email protected]> wrote: 
>> it only makes me 
>> look grimly at the old DOS program and wish for LCNC support for the 
>> PLM2000 
> 
> Have you made any progress on sniffing the communication protocol? 

Don't know what I'd need to do that. Possibly a terminate and stay 
resident (TSR) program for DOS that mirrors all to and from 
communication on COM1... 

The controller has a terminal mode that can be accessed by starting 
PLM2000 with the /T switch. 



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Message: 7 
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 23:02:01 -0700 
From: Mark Johnsen <[email protected]> 
Subject: [Emc-users] InfraRecorder google Chrome download warning? 
To: [email protected] 
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I needed a windows ISO burner and went to the LinuxCNC site because I had 
gotten one there before. I found infraRecorder on LinucCNC.org here: 

http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common/Getting_LinuxCNC.html#_burning_the_cd 

When I downloaded, it linked me to downloads.sourceforge... and once it 
started downloading, Google Chrome put up a RED screen and halted the 
download. 

Are there any issues w/ Sourceforge and google? I ended up downloading 
anyway and I didn't get extorted yet... 

Lastly, there are some dead links on the linuxCNC Download page: 
http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/download 

I looked briefly to see if I could edit and didn't find a way. The problem 
is that the links point to EMC and not CNC in the "getting _LinuxCNC": 
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common/Getting_LinuxCNC.html#_burning_the_cd 

Regards, 
Mark 


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