Gene: Try Cascade Tool. Also, get a copy of Fine Woodworking magazine and look at the advertisments, should help you along the way.
----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 1:06:15 AM Subject: Emc-users Digest, Vol 114, Issue 38 Send Emc-users mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Emc-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 (Gene Heskett) 2. Re: using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 (Gene Heskett) 3. Re: using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 (Todd Zuercher) 4. Re: using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 (Todd Zuercher) 5. Re: [Emc-developers] Off topic question - Need help with remote cell phone data connection via site to site VPN (Gregg Eshelman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 23:31:16 -0400 From: Gene Heskett <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Saturday 17 October 2015 23:17:40 Jon Elson wrote: > On 10/17/2015 09:47 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > So I went to Shop & Save & got the only re-usable mouse > > traps they had, the other choices being sticky pads or > > DeCon. Made out of thin galvanized steel these days, a > > very very poor design. I've been bending parts around to > > make them more sensitive, but so far all I am doing is > > furnishing a 2 location daily buffet of peanut butter, > > Plain peanut butter doesn't work. What you need is chunky. > The peanut butter smell attracts them, but you have to embed > a chuck of peanut in the claw of the Victor traps with the > metal trip part. When they try to dig that chunk of peanut > out, then the trap will trip. When I detect mice around, I > freshly bait the traps, and usually hear a snap within 20 > minutes. > > Jon > These aren't victor traps, and it is chunky, but I haven't tried to actually trap a hunk under the claw. If this set fails, I'll stick a piece of english walnut under the claw & cover it with chunky PB. But tonight I need to go dump the plastic rain gauge, its supposedly freezing here, but the airport temp 20 miles north is 40F. Figures. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 23:32:52 -0400 From: Gene Heskett <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Saturday 17 October 2015 23:21:56 Todd Zuercher wrote: > Ahh, the "better" mouse trap. You can still get the old fashioned > wooden ones. (pretty sure Dollar General usually has them). I like > some of the newer wooden ones that have the plastic trigger pad. They > are very sensitive sometimes almost too sensitive. (go off when you > set them down.) I hadn't considered the dollar store. We've a couple of those, out in the very low rent districts. Thanks for the reminder. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gene Heskett" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 10:47:43 PM > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 > > On Saturday 17 October 2015 00:21:32 Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > If tool compensation can really be made to work, it would simplicate > > at least 100 LOC out of this program. Already has, but I'm now > > adding more stuff to make sure there is turn around room at the ends > > of the cut sweeps. But tomorrow is another day. I am pleased with > > todays progress. > > This was that tommorrow. I kept getting closer & closer, but I've > come to 3 conclusions. > > 1. I need a roundover tool with a slightly larger radii, these are > 1/8", bought because the 1/4" tool leaves a 1/8" radius cut at an > inside corner, and I need perhaps a 5/32 or even a 3/16, but those > seem to be made of pure unobtainium. > > 2. This tool, at 2500 revs, if it does have a sharp point, needs to be > fed quite a bit slower than 20 IPM, the tip is just rolling on the > wood, leaving a line of whiskers to clean off. So tommorrow I'll add > a roundover feed rate thats about 1/8th the 1/4" tools 20 ipm feed > rate to see if that will result in a cleaner cut. > > 3. I need to add a radius move at the inner end of the fingers > pockets, a bit over and above what the tool comp does, its squaring up > that inside corner too much. That isn't hurting anything but it does > look funkity when the joints are brought together. And THAT will be > fun, NOT. > > 4. I had a mouse run into the garage a couple days ago while I was > doing some house cleaning & trash bagging. So I went to Shop & Save & > got the only re-usable mouse traps they had, the other choices being > sticky pads or DeCon. Made out of thin galvanized steel these days, a > very very poor design. I've been bending parts around to make them > more sensitive, but so far all I am doing is furnishing a 2 location > daily buffet of peanut butter, which its repeatedly cleaning off the > trip pans because they are so damned hard to trip. The basic problem > is that the wire holding the spring loaded bail open, has its anchor > point about 3x farther away from the bail wire than the old style > wooden trap, so the leverage it puts on the trip wire is sufficient to > actually lift the pan back into position as long as its not standing > on the pan with all 4 feet. > > I take it they were designed to be a buffet table by the humane > society, not to kill mice. :( > > Cheers, Gene Heskett Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 23:53:57 -0400 (EDT) From: "Todd Zuercher" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 We have some 1/8" radius pointed roundover bits at work that weren't real expensive. I can look up the manufacturer and part number Monday. Southeast Tools (China knock-offs of White side tools) part# SE1568. http://www.southeasttool.com/catalog/index.html#p=26 http://www.carbideprocessors.com/point-cutting-roundover-bit-3-4-dia-3-8-cut-length-1-4-shank-southeast-tool-se1568/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Heskett" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 11:26:33 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 On Saturday 17 October 2015 22:47:43 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 17 October 2015 00:21:32 Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > If tool compensation can really be made to work, it would simplicate > > at least 100 LOC out of this program. Already has, but I'm now > > adding more stuff to make sure there is turn around room at the ends > > of the cut sweeps. But tomorrow is another day. I am pleased with > > todays progress. > > This was that tommorrow. I kept getting closer & closer, but I've > come to 3 conclusions. > > 1. I need a roundover tool with a slightly larger radii, these are > 1/8", bought because the 1/4" tool leaves a 1/8" radius cut at an > inside corner, and I need perhaps a 5/32 or even a 3/16, but those > seem to be made of pure unobtainium. And it turns out when googling, that part number is a 1/16" radius bit, no damned wonder its not doing the job! Amazon miss-described it. Thats twice they've bit my ass in the last month. And the only hit I can get on a 1/8" radius pointed round over is at Carbide Processors, at $108 a copy that is un-obtainium personified! Does anyone else have better google foo than that? I have some diamond burrs for a dremel. I might be able to make these 3 $13 versions into a more pleasing profile on the toy mill. > 2. This tool, at 2500 revs, if it does have a sharp point, needs to be > fed quite a bit slower than 20 IPM, the tip is just rolling on the > wood, leaving a line of whiskers to clean off. So tommorrow I'll add > a roundover feed rate thats about 1/8th the 1/4" tools 20 ipm feed > rate to see if that will result in a cleaner cut. > > 3. I need to add a radius move at the inner end of the fingers > pockets, a bit over and above what the tool comp does, its squaring up > that inside corner too much. That isn't hurting anything but it does > look funkity when the joints are brought together. And THAT will be > fun, NOT. > > 4. I had a mouse run into the garage a couple days ago while I was > doing some house cleaning & trash bagging. So I went to Shop & Save & > got the only re-usable mouse traps they had, the other choices being > sticky pads or DeCon. Made out of thin galvanized steel these days, a > very very poor design. I've been bending parts around to make them > more sensitive, but so far all I am doing is furnishing a 2 location > daily buffet of peanut butter, which its repeatedly cleaning off the > trip pans because they are so damned hard to trip. The basic problem > is that the wire holding the spring loaded bail open, has its anchor > point about 3x farther away from the bail wire than the old style > wooden trap, so the leverage it puts on the trip wire is sufficient to > actually lift the pan back into position as long as its not standing > on the pan with all 4 feet. > > I take it they were designed to be a buffet table by the humane > society, not to kill mice. :( > > Cheers, Gene Heskett Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 00:07:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Todd Zuercher" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Gene, The Carbideprocessors product description doesn't appear to be 100% correct. That is why I included the link to Southeast Tools catalog. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Zuercher" <[email protected]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 11:53:57 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 We have some 1/8" radius pointed roundover bits at work that weren't real expensive. I can look up the manufacturer and part number Monday. Southeast Tools (China knock-offs of White side tools) part# SE1568. http://www.southeasttool.com/catalog/index.html#p=26 http://www.carbideprocessors.com/point-cutting-roundover-bit-3-4-dia-3-8-cut-length-1-4-shank-southeast-tool-se1568/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene Heskett" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 11:26:33 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 On Saturday 17 October 2015 22:47:43 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 17 October 2015 00:21:32 Gene Heskett wrote: > > [...] > > > If tool compensation can really be made to work, it would simplicate > > at least 100 LOC out of this program. Already has, but I'm now > > adding more stuff to make sure there is turn around room at the ends > > of the cut sweeps. But tomorrow is another day. I am pleased with > > todays progress. > > This was that tommorrow. I kept getting closer & closer, but I've > come to 3 conclusions. > > 1. I need a roundover tool with a slightly larger radii, these are > 1/8", bought because the 1/4" tool leaves a 1/8" radius cut at an > inside corner, and I need perhaps a 5/32 or even a 3/16, but those > seem to be made of pure unobtainium. And it turns out when googling, that part number is a 1/16" radius bit, no damned wonder its not doing the job! Amazon miss-described it. Thats twice they've bit my ass in the last month. And the only hit I can get on a 1/8" radius pointed round over is at Carbide Processors, at $108 a copy that is un-obtainium personified! Does anyone else have better google foo than that? I have some diamond burrs for a dremel. I might be able to make these 3 $13 versions into a more pleasing profile on the toy mill. > 2. This tool, at 2500 revs, if it does have a sharp point, needs to be > fed quite a bit slower than 20 IPM, the tip is just rolling on the > wood, leaving a line of whiskers to clean off. So tommorrow I'll add > a roundover feed rate thats about 1/8th the 1/4" tools 20 ipm feed > rate to see if that will result in a cleaner cut. > > 3. I need to add a radius move at the inner end of the fingers > pockets, a bit over and above what the tool comp does, its squaring up > that inside corner too much. That isn't hurting anything but it does > look funkity when the joints are brought together. And THAT will be > fun, NOT. > > 4. I had a mouse run into the garage a couple days ago while I was > doing some house cleaning & trash bagging. So I went to Shop & Save & > got the only re-usable mouse traps they had, the other choices being > sticky pads or DeCon. Made out of thin galvanized steel these days, a > very very poor design. I've been bending parts around to make them > more sensitive, but so far all I am doing is furnishing a 2 location > daily buffet of peanut butter, which its repeatedly cleaning off the > trip pans because they are so damned hard to trip. The basic problem > is that the wire holding the spring loaded bail open, has its anchor > point about 3x farther away from the bail wire than the old style > wooden trap, so the leverage it puts on the trip wire is sufficient to > actually lift the pan back into position as long as its not standing > on the pan with all 4 feet. > > I take it they were designed to be a buffet table by the humane > society, not to kill mice. :( > > Cheers, Gene Heskett Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 02:06:07 -0600 From: Gregg Eshelman <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Off topic question - Need help with remote cell phone data connection via site to site VPN To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed On 10/17/2015 3:42 PM, Dave Cole wrote: > That could be a work around for uncooperative cell phone companies, but > it would make things much more complex. > I didn't realize that Google has a VPN cloud solution. If you've ever felt like you've been railroaded by a cell phone company, check to see if you are with Sprint. The name was originally an acronym for Southern Pacific Railroad Internal Network Telephony. SP laid fiber optic lines by all their tracks, to use for train control and company voice service. They didn't begin to use all the fiber capacity they'd installed and decided to offer PSTN (Public Switched Telephone Network) service. The big telcos tried to block that. The railroad sued, won the suit and launched the SPRINT telephone company. That's what pushed AT&T and the others to speed up their installation of fiber optic lines, SPRINT was already mostly fiber. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users End of Emc-users Digest, Vol 114, Issue 38 ****************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
