The VFD is an old EMS G3+ (Yaskawa) drive.  The old motors were 200-240v(or 
380-460v), 18,000rpm, 7hp.  When running the old motors they were drawing about 
5-7amps when running at 300Hz.  The new motor's tag says 380v, 18,000rpm, 6kw 
and when running with the VFD set to 300Hz shows about 2 amps current draw.  
The first test cut with a 1/4" down spiral through two layers of 1/4" MDF 
(200ipm feed) has no audible drop in rpm, and the VFD shows about 2.5 amps.  I 
think it looks good enough for me.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Karlsson & Wang" <nicklas.karls...@karlssonwang.se>
To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 11:15:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Spindle Voltage?

> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015, at 09:41 AM, Todd                      Zuercher wrote:
> > I recently purchased an inexpensive router spindle off of ebay. It is rated 
> > at 6kw and 380v 3ph. The old spindle I'm replacing was dual voltage and 
> > could be wired Y or delta, for 200-240 or 380-460 (7HP). Stupid me I didn't 
> > think to check the old VFD and it is only capible of low voltage (running 
> > 208 3ph). 
> > 
> > So my question, what are the repercussions of feeding this motor with only 
> > 208 3ph? 
> > 
> > If the only problem is a loss of a percentage of power, but not more than 
> > half, I can live with that. (It cost less than 1/3 the price of the 
> > original.) 
> > 
> 
> If you keep the same voltage-to-frequency ratio and maximum current the motor 
> will be happy.
> But of course the speed will be lower.  For example, if it is designed for 
> 380V, 240Hz, 14,400RPM,
> the volts-per-hertz ratio is 380/244 = 1.5833.  If the VFD can only deliver 
> 208V, then you will be
> limited to 208/1.5833 = 131Hz, and the top speed will be 7860 RPM.  It will 
> still deliver rated torque
> at rated current, but since the speed is lower the kW will be lower - only 
> about 3.8kW.
> 
> You can run it at a lower voltage-to-frequency ratio, but you won't get the 
> same torque.  For example
> you could run it at 208V and 240Hz.  You would get a no-load speed of 
> 14,400RPM, but the torque-
> per-amp will be lower - you'll still only get 3.8kW.
> 
> 
> -- 
>   John Kasunich
>   jmkasun...@fastmail.fm

I agree. To keep voltage-to-frequency ratio up to the maximum voltage and then 
just increase frequency is probably the best.

The VFD may use space vector control instead of voltage-to-frequency ratio.

Did you double check if your motor is Delta connected and may be Y connected 
instead?


Nicklas Karlsson

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