On Tuesday 15 December 2015 10:33:55 John Kasunich wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015, at 10:51 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 14 December 2015 19:11:49 Jerry Scharf wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Just did a super quick google search and came up with a fairchild
> > > optocoupler hcpl2530 that will do 1Mbps. ~1.80 USD quantity 1.
> > > Isolation to 480v and good common mode rejection. There are a
> > > number of devices in similar and better speeds.
> >
> > I was wondering if faster stuff was filtering down into the
> > afordable category in the last decade,  But only 480 volt isolation?
> > that would have to be mesa isolated on the same substrate, edge
> > emitting diodes facing edge sensitive transistors. I think it
> > depends on the environment if thats enough isolation.  With noise
> > from higher speed/volatge stepper drivers nearby, I'd be a tad
> > nervous.
>
> "Only" 480V?
>
> Jerry wasn't saying "these devices fail at 481V".  They are UL
> approved for use as isolation between 480V power systems and
> low-voltage control.  The actual isolation rating is far higher than
> that.  The hipot test spec is 3750V RMS for 1 minute.
>
Thats much closer to what I was hopeing for John, thanks.  Most it seems 
are rate in the 4 to 5 thousand range. So I do not expect any surprises.

> Optos are getting pretty good these days.  At work I use the Renesas
> PS9924, an extra-wide body one that can meet safety regs at 690V AC,
> even at high altitudes where thinner air requires larger clearances. 
> Hipot rating is 7500V RMS! Sub-100nS prop delays, easily handle 5MHz
> data.  Cost is still under $10 each, $5 in quantity (a bargain if you
> need such performance).  Datasheet:
> http://documentation.renesas.com/doc/YOUSYS/document/r08ds0059ej0100_p
>s_family.pdf

These things are, I assume, SSR's at heart, meaning they are intended for 
AC service only if ever expected to be turned off?

The ones I have coming are probably older stuff and the SSR portion would 
be slower too. But that, in this circuit, shouldn't be a concern.  
They'll be a few days arriving, so I'll have plenty of time to conjure 
up a safety bleeder.  And figure out how to interlock it so it cannot be 
re-enabled until the bleeder has done its thing and self disconnected.  
I have some 3pdt ice cubes and one of those, self latching until the cap 
is down, is likely to find a new home.


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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