So Jacobs is not an "Import". Only if you live in England. On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 8:03 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Having bought a couple of these imported chucks, I threw them away, not > worth even returning. I use Jacobs ball bearing race type drill chucks > only. They don't slip, they don't jamb, they run true, and they are still > built by the people who invented these things. I suggest a used one of > these over any import. Try STM-surplus as an EBAY seller for a lead to nice > used equipment. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 2:04:01 AM > Subject: Emc-users Digest, Vol 119, Issue 3 > > Send Emc-users mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Emc-users digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. junk Drill chuck from Grizzly (Gene Heskett) > 2. Re: junk Drill chuck from Grizzly (Chris Albertson) > 3. Re: Need help with X200 VFD modbus (Danny Miller) > 4. Re: junk Drill chuck from Grizzly (Gene Heskett) > 5. Re: Need help with X200 VFD modbus (andy pugh) > 6. Re: junk Drill chuck from Grizzly (andy pugh) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 21:22:40 -0500 > From: Gene Heskett <[email protected]> > Subject: [Emc-users] junk Drill chuck from Grizzly > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Greetings; > > Everytime I go to drill a hole, using this POS chuck grizzly puts in the > G0704 kit, its a huge fight getting the wobbly bit to finally grab in > and start cutting somewhere near the center of what the DRO says it is. > When I say somewhere, often 30 thou off the spot. > > Prowling catalogs on the net tonight I can across an import 3-JT that > sounds usable, page 479 on Enco's online catalog, #290-1515 for a red > one under $65. Plus ship I assume. > > As that is at first glance, nominally a Ben note less than the real > Jacobs, it sounds almost to good to be good. > > Has anyone else any experience with this, probably Chinese 5/8" max > chuck, that you could share? > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 22:01:08 -0800 > From: Chris Albertson <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] junk Drill chuck from Grizzly > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <CABbxVHuovb18ZEUq4s7rT3nMzGUd0swQfROxLtTMs4RQ=mc...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I too have been shopping for drill chucks. Of all places amazon.com sells > a Southbend brand chuck (0 - 1/2" and JT33) for $27.00. They sell another > HHIP brand that I have that I measure runout by placing indicator on a > length of dill rod mounted in the chuck. I get 0.002 swing on the dial. > About $30 for the JT33 taper HHIP chuck. The Southbend chuck is still > on-order so I don't know about it other then the brand name. Likely the > Grizzly is actually HHIP but HHIP makes two lines of chucks that look > identical, one they call a "drill chuck" and the other is the "Profesional > Grade Drill Chuck" they sell for about $15 and $35 respectively. The pro > model is spec'd for < 0.003 TIR mine is about .002 TIR. I'm buying more > chucks because I'd tiered of moving mine between drill press, lathe and > mill. > > What I'm getting at is that the generic Chinese chucks (HHIP is what I > consider a generic Chinese brand) can be good if you read the specs and buy > the right one. They can also be let's say "suitable only for use in a hand > held drill'.. I'm very curious to see if the Southbend chuck lives up to > its brand name and still sells for under $30. > > About hole drilling, Use a "center drill" first. They don't wonder, don't > bend and make hole placement literally 10 times more accurate. > > > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Gene Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Greetings; > > > > Everytime I go to drill a hole, using this POS chuck grizzly puts in the > > G0704 kit, its a huge fight getting the wobbly bit to finally grab in > > and start cutting somewhere near the center of what the DRO says it is. > > When I say somewhere, often 30 thou off the spot. > > > > Prowling catalogs on the net tonight I can across an import 3-JT that > > sounds usable, page 479 on Enco's online catalog, #290-1515 for a red > > one under $65. Plus ship I assume. > > > > As that is at first glance, nominally a Ben note less than the real > > Jacobs, it sounds almost to good to be good. > > > > Has anyone else any experience with this, probably Chinese 5/8" max > > chuck, that you could share? > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > -- > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance > > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month > > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now > > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140 > > _______________________________________________ > > Emc-users mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > > > > -- > > Chris Albertson > Redondo Beach, California > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 00:24:37 -0600 > From: Danny Miller <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Need help with X200 VFD modbus > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > So it is! It's "--baud=". > > Well, it didn't make the VFD run. And looking at the Hal monitor, the > vfd "Ready" was False. > > I looked through the code, I see where it reads the coils, and compared > with wj200 manual and x200 manual... the x200 does have all the same > coils, but for some reason the wj200 put them at different coil numbers. > > So, the wj200 driver needs to be modified into an x200 and recompiled. > We're working through how to do all that right now. The code > modification seems trivial, the compile stage is a lot more. > > Danny > > On 3/1/2016 9:05 AM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > > On 02/29/2016 10:26 PM, [email protected] wrote: > >> Well I spent several hours on this now. I do see the format is wrong, I > changed to: > >> > >> loadusr -W wj200_vfd baud=19200 > >> > >> But I've got it on a scope and it's still 9600 baud. And if I change it > to "baud=hahahhaha", there's no error for it being a non-number either. > >> > >> Could the wj200_vfd code have a bug in accepting arguments? > > It's certainly possible that there's a bug in the WJ200 driver, but at > > this time I don't know of any. > > > > Looking at the code, i see that it expects arguments to have two leading > > dashes, for example "--baud=12345". > > > > I also see that it does not attempt to validate the --baud=NUMBER > > argument, so it makes sense that giving the argument "--baud=huehuehue" > > leaves the baud rate at 9600 and does not complain. (I'm not saying it > > *should* be that way, just saying that's what the code currently does.) > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 01:59:26 -0500 > From: Gene Heskett <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] junk Drill chuck from Grizzly > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Wednesday 02 March 2016 01:01:08 Chris Albertson wrote: > > > I too have been shopping for drill chucks. Of all places amazon.com > > sells a Southbend brand chuck (0 - 1/2" and JT33) for $27.00. They > > sell another HHIP brand that I have that I measure runout by placing > > indicator on a length of dill rod mounted in the chuck. I get 0.002 > > swing on the dial. About $30 for the JT33 taper HHIP chuck. The > > Southbend chuck is still on-order so I don't know about it other then > > the brand name. Likely the Grizzly is actually HHIP but HHIP makes > > two lines of chucks that look identical, one they call a "drill > > chuck" and the other is the "Profesional Grade Drill Chuck" they sell > > for about $15 and $35 respectively. The pro model is spec'd for < > > 0.003 TIR mine is about .002 TIR. I'm buying more chucks because I'd > > tiered of moving mine between drill press, lathe and mill. > > > > What I'm getting at is that the generic Chinese chucks (HHIP is what I > > consider a generic Chinese brand) can be good if you read the specs > > and buy the right one. They can also be let's say "suitable only for > > use in a hand held drill'.. I'm very curious to see if the Southbend > > chuck lives up to its brand name and still sells for under $30. > > I have a query into enco customer service, asking for any runnout specs > it might have. But I don't expect an answer this time of the night. > > > About hole drilling, Use a "center drill" first. They don't wonder, > > don't bend and make hole placement literally 10 times more accurate. > > Even a center drill is helpless in this thing. Depending on how its > oriented in the chuck, in relation to a cutting edge vs the wobble, it > can either walk to center, requiring an extra ton of force, or drill the > center hole 1/16" bigger. > > Thanks Chris A. > > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:22 PM, Gene Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Greetings; > > > > > > Everytime I go to drill a hole, using this POS chuck grizzly puts in > > > the G0704 kit, its a huge fight getting the wobbly bit to finally > > > grab in and start cutting somewhere near the center of what the DRO > > > says it is. When I say somewhere, often 30 thou off the spot. > > > > > > Prowling catalogs on the net tonight I can across an import 3-JT > > > that sounds usable, page 479 on Enco's online catalog, #290-1515 for > > > a red one under $65. Plus ship I assume. > > > > > > As that is at first glance, nominally a Ben note less than the real > > > Jacobs, it sounds almost to good to be good. > > > > > > Has anyone else any experience with this, probably Chinese 5/8" max > > > chuck, that you could share? > > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > -- > > > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > > > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > > > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > > > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >---------- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application > > > Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just > > > $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective > > > actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. > > > Signup Now! > > > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=272487151&iu=/4140 > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Emc-users mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author) > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 09:59:25 +0000 > From: andy pugh <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Need help with X200 VFD modbus > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <can1+yzxkppewnksh83k9+ksh2qc9r0bj8aplrtdhjayu7rz...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On 2 March 2016 at 06:24, Danny Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > > So, the wj200 driver needs to be modified into an x200 and recompiled. > > We're working through how to do all that right now. The code > > modification seems trivial, the compile stage is a lot more. > > The component is written in the "comp" format, so there is a chance > that halcompile will work. > http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/hal/comp.html > > There is also a fair chance that it won't work due to the includes, > but it is probably worth a try. > > If you change the name of the file you need to also change the name of > the component (in the "component" line of the source file) > > -- > atp > If you can't fix it, you don't own it. > http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:03:14 +0000 > From: andy pugh <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] junk Drill chuck from Grizzly > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > <can1+yzwvw+zajpr1nxstj53odggdphozoepdzf_mgjmht+j...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On 2 March 2016 at 02:22, Gene Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: > > Prowling catalogs on the net tonight I can across an import 3-JT that > > sounds usable, page 479 on Enco's online catalog, #290-1515 for a red > > one under $65. Plus ship I assume. > > Try prowling eBay for a second-hand Albrecht. > > -- > atp > If you can't fix it, you don't own it. > http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto > > > > ------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance > APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month > Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now > Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. 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