On Thursday 04 May 2017 02:32:41 Erik Christiansen wrote:

> On 03.05.17 22:40, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Wednesday 03 May 2017 22:29:43 Chris Albertson wrote:
> > > RS422 is balanced and opt isolated at the Mesa card end so you
> > > likely have better noise resistance then with SPI.
> >
> > rs485 is the single ended cousin.  Could a atom board keep up with
> > that with a pci-e rs422 card in it?  That does have a bit of an
> > attraction, particularly from the noise safety dept.  Silly Q: can
> > the pi do rs422 over its gpio?
>
> Hook a RS485/RS422 transceiver to a Pi's serial TXD & RXD, and
> terminate each end of the twisted pair cable in 120 ohms, then it's
> done. All the chip does is TTL/CMOS to differential Tx & Rx.
>
> I bought some surplus DS3695A RS485/RS422 half-duplex transceivers a
> few days ago for US30c each, but they draw over 27 mA, idling, - a
> MAX485 gets by on 300 uA, though it'll only do 2.5 Mb/s. The
> SN65HVD485 will do 10 Mb/s on long lines, and draw 1 to 2 mA. (They
> may be the one Jon likes?)
>
> Just watch pinout, driver enable logic, and whether it's full/half
> duplex. The former has separate Tx & Rx cables (4 wires) vs 2 wires.
>
> Incidentally, it's the RS485 which is multipoint - just in case you
> want that, and go to put plastic down.
>
> Erik
>
The ones I bought to play with are usb on one end, and 3 terminal on the 
other.  Bought them at the same time I bought that clone vfd, paying 
about $3 ea at the time, only to find when I took it apart, that the 
footprint for the seriel connection was totally absent from any of its 
boards.  So I'm running it directly with a spinx1, which is receiving a 
PDM signal from the 7i90.  Control works great until nearly 200hz, but 
the motor inductance is so high its drawing under an amp/phase at 200 
hz, and the torque is of course vanishingly small. I'd guess under 
cutting loads, 120-140hz is about maximum.  I'm sure I don't have it 
well tuned yet, the lf cutoff at 15 hz seems too high as the start is 
pretty brutal.  With the clamps on the chuck pulled up tight so I can't 
unscrew the chuck, I can have it doing 100 spindle revs using the lowest 
belt position, type m4 to reverse, and its doing that same 100 revs in 
reverse less than a second later, wash, rinse, repeat going back to m3.

My target is minimum overshoot for rigid tapping. I have some hal stuff I 
can watch with a halmeter, tells me how many encoder counts it 
overshoots so I can set the g33.1 params to not hit the bottom of the 
blind hole & break the tap. Getting more familiar with pyvcp, I'll 
probably add a number box to the gui at some point. I'd like it to 
display the distance, but the k value fed to the g33.1 hasn't been found 
so I can multiply it and convert the encoder counts into actual 
overshoot distance traveled.  Best I can display might be degrees turned 
fwd since the reversal was given.  I freeze that peak reading until the 
next peck if using a peck cycle.

Sounds like if I buy some more rs422 stuffs, they ought to be based on 
the SN65HVD485 chip. I'll be on the lookout. I am in favor of any 
isolation from the noise I can get even if my current "lashup" is 
working well. But on ebay its opto and slow and expen$ive, or usb and a 
5 dollar bill. And those for sure aren't isolated. Or am I looking with 
the wrong search terms? URL for something like you are writing about 
plz.

Doing an experiment this day, might take a while. I managed to find the 
root of the card on the pi, and with a terrabyte hd plugged into the pi, 
cloned the one bootable card I have left to a 32Gb file on the hd.  I 
just brought a dead card, one of my readers, and that drive in here and 
plugged it into my usb tree, and dd is now happily writing that 32Gb 
image to a card that won't boot. Since the hd had an un-expanded 
filesystem install of raspian jessie on it, I first had to find a way, 
using the tools available on the pi, to expand the / filesystem from 
3.2Gb to 850Gb, and do it without losing any data. Between parted and 
resize2sf, I did appear to get it done.  If it writes at the usual 4.5 
megabytes/second, it will be done about midnight. :(

Cheers Erik, Gene Heskett
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