On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 at 23:50, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:

The only thing I could not find with any
search terms was a 1/2 to 1 gallon water tank to bury the water pump in.

I have a Chinese water cooled spindle on two different home built CNC routers.  I used a 5 gallon plastic bucket for the coolant tank on each.  They were free with a cat litter purchase.  The plastic snap on top is hinged.  The back 1/3 stays snapped in place and the front 2/3 can be hinged open in case I ever need to dump the coolant, add to it, etc.  The lid keeps dust and debris out of the closed loop coolant system.  A small pump is submerged in the coolant and the power cord for the pump and the coolant inlet and outlet hoses are routed through the back third of the lid that remains snapped onto the top of the bucket.

You don't need a big pump regardless of the size of the spindle motor.  I use a small Little Giant pump that's often sold for fountains, hydroponics, etc.  I get the best version they make and it's still inexpensive.  Good brands include Superior and the upper end versions of Little Giant.  Here are a couple of possible examples.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/362400850664

https://www.ebay.com/itm/233055122922

I like the magnetic drive submersible pumps for reliability.  I'd pay a little more for a long power cord to get any electrical splices well away from the coolant and a pipe thread outlet port so you can easily find a fitting to connect to the weird metric sized very flexible hose that connects to the spindle motor.

These small pumps don't produce much head pressure (aka "lift").  On the larger CNC router, I tried to hide the coolant pump under the enclosure and route the coolant lines on top of the enclosure and then down to the spindle motor.  That didn't work because the pump couldn't push the coolant that high.  I tried a much larger pump trying to power my way through the problem and the head pressure was marginal.  It barely worked, most of the time, but the pump is cooled by the coolant and the coolant temperature rose quickly.  The coolant was cooling the pump more than it was cooling the spindle. I finally gave up, went back to the smaller pump, and put the coolant tank on top of the CNC router's enclosure so it was pumping down to the spindle motor and back up to the coolant tank.  The pump only needs enough head pressure to clear the top of the coolant tank.  A possible down side is that a coolant leak could siphon most of the coolant out of the coolant tank, but I used good hose and it hasn't been a problem.  On the small CNC router, I placed the coolant tank on a shelf behind the CNC router, and it also pumps down to the spindle motor.

I continue to be impressed with the Chinese water cooled spindle motors.  The quality is very good.  They brag about the precision "German" bearings and they are very smooth and have a very precise feel, certainly much better than a Porter Cable or Bosch wood working router, even though I suspect that "German" is the deliberately deceptive name of a company or town in China.  Still, good is good.

Using four gallons of coolant allows the larger CNC router to run pretty much indefinitely now that the garage shop is air conditioned.  When it was hot in the summer, the coolant would get a bit warm in the summer after five hours of hard use of the spindle motor.  Less coolant means it will get hotter sooner.  More coolant is an easier and cheaper solution than adding a radiator.

I use the pink RV safe antifreeze as the coolant.  I don't think it will corrode metals as readily as water and it won't freeze in your unheated shop.  Unlike some automotive coolant, this is used full strength.

I buy liquid LCD thermometer strips on eBay and I'll wrap one around the spindle motor and I'll stick another in the electrical panel so I can see the temperature at a glance.  These are passive thermometers with no electronics.  They're sold for use in pet terrariums for lizards.  Direct reading with no batteries to replace.  Be sure to get one that goes as high as 40C or 104F.  The selection isn't as good as I remember.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/253864383162

I wanted to measure the spindle motor temperature rather than the coolant temperature to catch a fault where the pump stops pumping. I still need to install a thermal switch on the spindle motor to E-stop the CNC router if the spindle motor starts to overheat.  I wired the gantry for the thermal switch but never installed it... or I installed the switch but never wired it into the E-stop circuit. These projects all blur together in my old brain.





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