On Friday 19 April 2019 06:27:56 TJoseph Powderly wrote:

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> Subject:      Re: [Emc-users] ER ATC tool idea
> Date:         Fri, 19 Apr 2019 17:15:50 +0700
> From:         TJoseph Powderly <tjt...@gmail.com>
> To:   Andy Pugh <bodge...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> Gene,
>
> On 04/19/2019 06:52 AM, Andy Pugh wrote:
> >> On 19 Apr 2019, at 00:47, Ken Strauss <ken.stra...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote: there is no obvious way that the threads would achieve that
> >> level of concentricity.
> >
> > You can still register on the taper. Solid “collets” and
> > off-the-shelf nuts seem so obvious that I am puzzled that I have
> > never found them. It solves the tool length puzzle at a stroke.
>
That it would, but if the nut is off the shelf, the face of the collet 
will need to loose some of the OD of its extractor groove, or the nut 
will need it turned away. I've not succeeded yet in making a collet, 
with a fitting tool shank already in it snap past the eccentric and 
assume its proper position in the nut. The collet must be able to flex 
ever so slightly in order to engage the extractor eccentric. And that 
leaves us looking for a way to reliably extract the solid collet should 
it decide to stick, and at the std anglesused, it will.

> here's your chance to make use of that induction heater thread from a
> while back.

Which brings up the performance of my pacemaker in the near field of one 
of those. Lets just say its not recommended.  Although I have walked 
around in the field of a 2500 watt ATU being driven at .98MHz w/o any 
ill effects. Close enough my IR thermometer, looking for hot joints, 
went totally berzerkly, reading room temp or slightly warmer parts 
at -176F. Gotta get me a more better one. :)  That one failed at about 
60" away from those air wound coils, sized for a 25k transmitter.

With the new Vector Network Analyser tool I've bought, I'll have to get 
right up in its face personal, but not while under that sort of power, 
probably well under a watt of drive to measure it and tune it correctly. 
And hope its not fouled up by other nearby (50 miles is nearby) radio 
stations.

I have found that not only am I a dying breed of engineer, one who 
actually fixes 60 yo transmitters, that all the engineers with the stuff 
to do an ATU tuneup, have already died.  Theres no longer any magic in 
saying you are a radio engineer, hasn't been in 50 years thanks to the 
FCC throwing 1st phones under the bus in the '70's. So there are not any 
youngsters with any interest in doing something like this. I can pay for 
this gizmo, doing a non-directional for 10% of what was being charged 40 
years ago, with the first 2 jobs, so why not? 

> you could make solid collets for heat shrink tooling :-)
> heck, they could be solid collet-nuts
> no concentricity problems ( except in manufacture , got a jig grinder
> ? )

No, at least nothing that could make the nuts threads in that limited 
amount of space.  I love the idea, but it would need a whole new ejector 
scheme to be invented.

Take care TomP.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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