On 26.05.19 13:07, Dave Cole wrote:
> There are some good reasons to use a 24 or 48 volt DC bus power system for
> smaller systems.
> The chance of electrocution is pretty low for a 48 volt DC system in a dry
> environment.
> Once you get above 50 volts or so things change.

Here in Oz, a "suitably qualified person" can wire ELV (Extra Low
Voltage, <60 Vdc), AIUI. My feeling is that knowledge of fusing
requirements for very low source impedance battery systems ought to also
be a prerequisite. A house fire is an expensive lesson.

> 24 volts is quite a practical voltage level for smaller systems.

I'll be running 24v for LED lighting. As for power, you'll only find low
power inverters, due to the losses.

> Do a search for 24 volt inverters and you will find many.   48 volt, not as
> many.

Ah, then you're looking at 4WD/camping/holiday type suppliers. The 3 or
5 or 8 kW inverters I've read up on are all 48v, and I've not found one
at 24v.

> I'm thinking hunting cabin, small cottage, larger boat, remote shed, etc.

Had begun to figure that. ;-)

> Now if you want to do your entire house and have typical house loads it
> seems like a 120V+ DC bus system would make more sense.

Theoretically, yes, an inverter would then also have less I²R losses than
at 48v. And there are 120v inverters - but only with integral system
battery, in my searches so far. Most of the generic system components
for a full household are at the industry standard voltage of 48v -
inverters and batteries.

I think there's a 72 Vdc inverter hiding out there in the marketplace
somewhere. That might be theoretically attractive, but a good European
48 Vdc to 220 Vac inverter will be 96 to 97% efficient, according to the
spec sheets I've read, so the battery inconvenience seems hardly worth
any (half) percent you'd win.

Erik


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