They are actually rated from zero Hz (DC) to 100MHz.

Ken

Kenneth Lerman
55 Main Street
Newtown, CT 06470



On Mon, Oct 14, 2019 at 5:27 AM Gene Heskett <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sunday 13 October 2019 19:46:55 Kenneth Lerman wrote:
>
> > Hello All -- especially Gene,
> >
> > I've seen many posts on the lists regarding breakout boards and
> > dealing with issues regarding slow opto-isolators. I have a question:
> >
> > Is anyone using: ISO776x
> > <http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/iso7760.pdf> devices?
>
> I've seen that pdf before, but in the cases where I've simply bypassed
> them, I had good solid, noise free sources to start with.  If I use a
> BoB, its a Saintsmart, simply because there is not any opto's in their
> output path, and most outputs goto the input opto's of a stepper driver,
> which I've found is a bit faster than the average bear. A 2M542 for
> instance can, if the drive is good rail to rail stuff, be driven to
> about 375k steps a second before it miss-behaves!  That will turn a
> nema-23  motor rated for 270 oz/in, to over 3000 rpms if the supply
> voltage is pushing the 2M542 at around 42 volts.  Nearly 2000 revs at 28
> volts.
>
> I suspect the reason they aren't used may have something to do with the
> cost, or possibly the fact that they are capacitively coupled and very
> low re-rate signals might drift back to their default state, without any
> change in the input voltage.
>
> But thats, to me, just a SWAG.
>
> The most glaring example of too slow in my stuff is the 1000 line encoder
> sitting on top of the G0704 spindle motor, an ABX encoder, and the
> resultant "scale" is over 14,000 in the .ini file, and thats way too
> fast for an opto.  So I have 2, $2, rs485 convertors to make single
> ended rail to rail logic out of the encoders differential outputs, Those
> 2 single ended signals are now being fed to a sainsmart bob whose optos
> I have bypassed, and on to the 5i25. Works perfectly.
>
> I have switches on the gearshift knob that tell my .hal file which gear
> its in, or no gear in case its between gears, in which case I feed the
> pid just enough offset to make the motor spin maybe 25 rpm when its out
> of gear, making gear shifts slick and painless while its running! When
> its in gear by the last degree and one of the switches is closed, the
> circuit then scales the "scale" by the gear and restores the speed input
> from lcnc, and 200ms later the spindle is back up to the set S speed
> even if its 3000 revs. Thats 800 revs faster than OEM.
>
> The 5i25 encoders x input is still the x input from the original optical
> encoder wheel I made.  And with that high a resolution, quantization
> noise is essentially gone, and I can run the spindle pid's PGain at 40
> or so, but 20 is unconditionally stable.
>
> With 126 volts in the motor supply feeding one of Jon's pwm-servo amps to
> that 90 volt, 9.7 amp rated motor, I'm getting close to 2hp at the
> amplifiers 17 amp limit, rigid tapping in steel with a 3/8's" tap can be
> done by pecking in steel or cast, going about 1/2 turn per peck. No
> change in the speed until that 17 amps limit makes its iron chirp.
>
> And I'm amazed that the plastic gears in that 2 speed head are still
> working, by all rights I should have stripped the teeth  off them by
> now.  Tough stuff.
>
> > They are 100 MHz data rate devices, have high isolation, have six in a
> > package, and look like they would work just fine. The only downside
> > might be that they are limited to 5.5 volts on the output, so you
> > might need to add a transistor driver after them. And all of the ones
> > in a single package share a ground.
> >
> > I hadn't seen them before, so I thought I'd mention them.
> >
> They look like they'd be perfectly usable in an active circuit, but I'd
> have reservations about putting one in a home or limit switch circuit
> until we find out what their dc characteristics are.
>
> > Regards,
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > Kenneth Lerman
> > 55 Main Street
> > Newtown, CT 06470
> >
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> Cheers, Gene Heskett
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