How old is this PC you have Windows 10 on? I've found it to run pretty snappily on any dual core box or laptop as old as 2005, as long as it can have at least 4 gig RAM. Win 10 is the first version of Windows to have *lower* system hardware requirements than its predecessors, and this time those minimal requirements were not of the "Sure, it'll work, but you won't be able to stand to use it." variety. Win 10 will run-ish with only 2 gig RAM, even the 64 bit version. But if the PC tops out at 2 gig it's best to stick to 32 bit, in any operating system. What's your CPU? If it's only single core, that's the biggest bottleneck for Win 10. It's very much optimized for 2 or more CPUs or cores. The good news there is that many older dual core CPUs are dirt cheap. Under $20, often way under. A Core 2 Duo or Quad will run Windows 10 nicely. The Core Duo series that preceded it? Not so well. The 2 is important. Any 2+ core AMD CPU from the Phenom II series up will run Windows 10 at a decent pace. No previous version of Windows has ever run so well on 10+ year old hardware.
Run CPUID on it to find out exactly what the board and CPU are, then it can be found out if a cheap CPU and RAM upgrade is possible to get it up to tolerable speed. I dunno how well (or if) Win 10 tolerates upgrading from a single to multi-core CPU. I do recall that it took some tinkering to change up from a single to 2+ core CPU on XP without having to reinstall. Places like Newegg, Tiger Direct and others have surplus and refurbished Dell, HP and other OEM PCs that are cheap, a couple of years old, and will run Windows 10 very well, most of them shipped with Win 10. I just built a Ryzen 5 3400G box for a client. 16 gig RAM and a 1TB NVME style SSD. Boots in about 30 seconds. I haven't timed it yet but it is *fast*. The SSD benchmark with ATTO topped out around 3,000 megabytes per second. Total cost, including an OEM copy of Win 10 Pro x64 and a refurbished 32" HP 2K monitor was around $850. The most difficult part was finding a case with two 5.25" bays *without* a silly front door, *without* silly tempered glass or clear plastic side panels, and *without* silly RGB LED lighting. Still couldn't come up with a decent mATX Socket AM4 motherboard that didn't have integrated RGB LED lighting control. Turned those off in BIOS first thing after assembling the parts. On Monday, October 14, 2019, 10:56:41 PM MDT, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote: But whats the cost of that level of integration? Which will be paid for by the seat. Whoever that IT guy is that can do that, likes to eat and drive nice cars. I've one windows 10 home edition pc, and its at least 10 minutes to boot and run the application I bought it for. But because that app needs superuser to run it, and windows makes it extremely non-obvious how to get "root", I have to learn how to do that all over again each time. And success at acessing that part of the menu apparently is controlled by the phase of the rip tide in the Bay of Fundy and which side of your mouth is holding a wad of Kentucky Twist. And I don't use tobacco now since 30 years ago. If it wasn't for that app, there would not be a windows pc on my property. I don't have time for that level of obnoxiousness they call security. _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users