On Thursday 12 November 2020 13:09:43 Chris Albertson wrote:

> You can not print over the top of air.   If there is an overhang you
> need to enable "support" in Cura.  If you do then Cura will print some
> removable structure under the overhang.
>
> Most people when they design parts try to design them so they can be
> printed without supports by avoiding overhangs but sometimes you
> can't avoid it.
>
> On a single extruder printer, you have to use the same material for
> supports as for the part.  (On a dual-head printer you can use
> water-soluble support and get a much nicer result but that is
> expensive)
>
> The suggestion to make the part in metal is good.   But we like to
> print them first to verify fit and function.  Then after it is seen to
> work, generate the OTHER kind of g-code from the same design file and
> send it to your mill.  But this workflow fails if you don't make both
> printed and milled parts from the same design file.

And the design file isn't in the zip. Darnit. Nothing but the .stl's. So 
I think I'll print them, and try to get accurate measurements for 1/8" 
alu sheet. The Lid itself, I just realized has all the counterbores on 
the same side.  Except the tracks for the belt adjusting sliders. Grrr.
Most of the night and its only 53% done, and the central infill, 
supposedly 20%, is mostly missing. I hope I can get usable measurements 
from it. At 65% done I had turned the nozzle back up 7C to 250C, the 
flow up to 70% from 62%, and at 4.68mm up its looking somewhat better. 
250C is as hot as the ender 3 pro will go. I think for PETG, a bigger 
heater and a 270C limit would be more suitable. But it is what it is.

> A hybrid technique I sometimes use is to print the part with under
> sized holes and then machine the holes to size.  The tool needs to
> move VERY slow so as to not heat the plastic it is cutting.  Same with
> counterbores,     OK, more details, You CAN print over air if the
> "ceiling" has a 45 or 60 degree slope.  So make your counter-bores
> have "vaulted ceilings" and then after the print is finish machine the
> bottom of the counterbores flat.    Plastic is so soft you can use the
> counterbore cutter by hand.  I do the same with counter-sink holes for
> flathead screws.  I "finish" them with a cutter,

In metal I use a 1/8th inch carbide endmill and generate the counterbore 
with arcgenm18.py. counterbore.py is broken. Its output won't go by 
lcnc's arc test at file loading. 50% error 100% of the time.

Thanks Chris.

> On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 9:05 AM Gene Heskett <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> > 2 scans attached if they get thru the listserver.
> >
> > I am having a problem with this part, printed right side up, I am
> > getting this from PETG at 250C nozzle/70C bed. The ledge in the
> > center, destroyed as you can see, has an overhang of about 1.5mm to
> > retain the bearing. Turned over, its destroying the bottoms of the
> > cap screw counterbores. And the supports in the bolt holes are being
> > caught and pulled back out of the holes, mucking up the bottoms of
> > the counterbores that bolt it all together.
> >
> > Suggested fixes?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Cheers, Gene Heskett
-- 
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable.
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