On Wednesday 21 July 2021 14:46:26 Chris Albertson wrote:

> Could you solve the noise issue with a phase-locked loop?  THis takes
> advantage of the fact that the spindle has momentum and the
> accelerating forces are limited.
>
> It is a common technique in electronics, you build a good, clean local
> oscillator and then take your frequency measurement from that, rather
> than from the noisy real-world data.  But at the same time, you
> compare the phase of the local oscillator with the real data  and make
> tiny adjustment to the local oscillator.
>
> What is really happening is that you only look at edges if they happen
> near the expected time and weigh them, scoring to how near the
> expected time so statistically almost all the noise is ignored.
>
> You can try averaging, but it does not work nearly as well and has a
> long lag.
>
That I have tried, taking the sum of the last 4 edges, but the lag was 
showing and it was still too noisy to work well.

> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 1:19 AM andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, 21 Jul 2021 at 05:36, andrew beck <andrewbeck0...@gmail.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Andy what do you think is the max rpm that this will read reliably
> > > do you think?
> >
> > It will handle a higher speed than a full quadrature setup as it
> > only needs to see one edge.
> > I have run it up to 16000 rpm (in the video) with a 50,000ns base
> > thread.
> >
> > The problem with counter-mode is noise rejection, noise is seen as
> > pulses and gets added to the position. (This isn't unique to the
> > missing-tooth index, this is counter-mode in general)
> >
> > --
> > atp
> > "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is
> > designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> > lunatics."
> > — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
> >
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