On Sunday 22 August 2021 01:06:24 [email protected] wrote: > On 21.08.21 08:50, Gene Heskett wrote: > > The default desktop, xfce4, of our buster installer, steals the > F10 key > > to bring up the terminals menu pulldown. But for an old hand > that's a > > pain in the ass because it nakes you hunt up the mouse and click > on the > > F10 button to quit mc. And it is not in the /etc/xfce4 keyboard > related > > menu's anyplace so is not easily found and turned off. > > > > Its actually in the terminal preferences, with a default of on > and you > > have to checkmark it to turn it off. So now I can use mc from the > > command line. > > Many thanks, Gene, for the pointer. I've just used that to clobber > its > hijacking of F1 as well, as I use that in Vim, and Mutt uses it for > its > manual. Not that I've been using xfce-terminal until > (coincidentally) > trying it out half an hour ago. The old-fashioned xterms I use > don't > hijack function keys, so I haven't had the problem. However, even > using: > XTERM="/usr/bin/xterm -u8" doesn't ensure it displays all utf8 > characters, > which is distinctly annoying. (Recently, `'` and `-` in list posts > have > been rendering as small squares when arriving as two-byte > characters for > some reason.) > > > Now I'm tossing up whether to invest time in finding an xterm utf8 > fix, > or fixing the other problem with xfce-term; --color-text=yellow > shows as > orange, which contrasts poorly with --color-bg=darkslategrey . Add > that > the colours in xfce-term are washed-out, and I'm wondering if it's > worth pursuing. (Having used those xterm colours since SunOS > 4.1.3, back in the 1990s, I'm disinclined to change for no good > reason.) > > Ah, uxterm is better; it handles `'` and `-`better ... but not > everything.It also handles the classical options: uxterm -bg > darkslategrey -fg yellow > > > Erik > I am rather a rabid fan of two terminal proggy's.
Old kde, now tde's "konsole", and xfce4's default terminal. Except for the key stealing in xfce4, which is enough to upset the Pope, both have decent color choices and don't go out of their way to miss-treat utf-8 charsets. My guess is that neither one, treat other languages full of chars only available from the alt + keystrokes well. A native english speaker's (me) alphabet does not use the alt keys except for the old DEC's using them as alternate control keys, I once had some fun making a coco3 talk like it was a VT-220. I re-wrote a VT-100 program to do it because the only VT-220 in the whole station ate its h.o.t. and DEC didn't have the h.o.t. and wanted around 3 thou for a new VT-540 terminal. Dec went w/o that sale, and the PDP-11/23a it ran self destructed the whole CBS affiliate Satellite controls by crashing multiple times a day. And DEC couldn't fix it. Changed everything it it except the frame rail bearing its serial number. So it got replaced by an IBM, on CBS's dime, which sat there and ran for the next decade. Anyway, I'm glad I finally found it, and that its helped somebody else now. Take care Erik. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> _______________________________________________ Emc-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
