800hz would be the frequency if counting poles as pole pairs, no?

If this is a 4-pole motor, counting both the N and S poles, and hz = rpm / 60 * 
poles / 2, I get 400hz.

Because there are two poles per pole pair. I am not sure that all manufacturers 
use the same convention.


> On Sep 24, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Todd Zuercher <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> They cost about $6500, but that cost is about half any competitors 
> equivalent. (such as HSD, Omlat...)
> 
> The motor name plate says 800hz for 24000rpm, (guess I assumed that info was 
> on that page I linked to.)
> 
> Todd Zuercher
> P. Graham Dunn Inc.
> 630 Henry Street 
> Dalton, Ohio 44618
> Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031
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> On Friday 24 September 2021 10:47:49 Todd Zuercher wrote:
> 
>> Yes.
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> Nice chart. But doesn't mention at any place, rpms vs frequency.
> I don't imagine they give that puppy away either.
> 
> I tend to run the cheaper stuff, only having a 254 volt center tapped at 
> ground single phase feed at my location.
> 
>> Todd Zuercher
>> P. Graham Dunn Inc.
>> 630 Henry Street
>> Dalton, Ohio 44618
>> Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gene Heskett <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 10:27 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] VFD Recomendation
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>> On Friday 24 September 2021 09:37:32 Todd Zuercher wrote:
>>> Anyone have a recommendation for a good VFD and supplier that can 
>>> run a 15kw 4pole spindle at 24000rpm?
>> 
>> Thats going to be a tough one Todd, its 10x the power of anything I 
>> have, and would need to get to 800 hz to run a 4 pole at 24k revs.
>> 
>> Are you sure its a 4 pole? All of my 24k's have been 2 pole, doing 24k 
>> on 400 hz. 3600 on 60 hz, but needing better cooling to run that slow 
>> for long jobs. The one I'm running now, will be spitting steam back 
>> into the 5 gallon tank in an hours running at 4k. But is fine for 
>> longer jobs at 14k-20k with the mister on. At the higher revs, it 
>> never gets the tank above 36C.
>> 
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