I think I'd rather just fix the washer stack/clamping issue.  Repeatable, easy 
tool changes is so worth the effort.

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Engvall <dengv...@charter.net>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2024 11:18 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Not so slight problem with spindle/tools

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Indeed, using drive dog threaded holes. Initially I did think about a flat disc 
but cannot see that gives me  any better holding strength than the dogs with a 
slight tee on top so one gets both drive and cat40 retention.

The other problem is keeping the  spindle from rotating while I torque down the 
tool.
Tool holder is a Cat40 SK16 which gives me better rigidity than a ER collet. 
The concept is to use AlCrN coated tools with coolant in hopes of getting 
decent tool life. A local shop is getting about 5000 feet of path length/cutter 
but also using coolant! Even with light cuts that is moving a lot of material 
in my case 8620 or 20 carbon steel, not too challenging.


> On Mar 18, 2024, at 5:26 PM, andy pugh <bodge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 18 Mar 2024 at 21:13, Dave Engvall <dengv...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> So I’ve built Tee-nuts that will retain the cat40 assuming the
>> M6 shcs hold. Planned use is to use small tools at max spindle speed.
>> (4K). I need ideas to clamp the cat40 so I can torque down tool while
>> in the spindle.
>>
>
> I am not 100% sure what you are describing.
>
> Are you saying that you are using some tapped holes in the spindle
> face to hold Tee nuts to retain the tooling? Or are you maybe using
> the drive dog threaded holes?
>
> Whilst a proper repair to the drawbar seems like the correct fix, I
> think that a machined ring to retain an ER collet holder might be
> better than what I think you are describing.
>
> (Then you can just swap tools and collets)
>
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