I have no experience with the Pi.   But I've been of the opinion that computer 
horse power has not been a real issue for Linuxcnc for a very long time.  A 
pc's real time latency generally has (or used to have) little to do with how 
fast the computer actually is.  It is more about the whole of the computer's 
architecture.  Back in the day we were running EMC2 on pcs with Pentium III and 
Pentium 4 cpus with respectable latency and adequate speeds.  Even a Pi3 is 
probably at least as fast or a faster pc than most of those old dinosaurs.

As long as a computer has enough processing power and resources to comfortably 
meet the host operating systems requirements, it will be fast enough to run 
Linuxcnc, so long as it can also reliably meet the real-time latency 
requirements.  Or at least that was the case with older RTAI kernels.  The 
newer Preempt-RT ones do seem to be more reliant on processing power to get 
decent latency.  I believe that may be because it is more of a patch within the 
kernel vs RTAI which is more on the outside.

Now to my uninformed mind it appears to me that ARM cpus would have a strike or 
two against them when it comes to real time.  (But I have no idea if that is 
actually true or just my own personal misconception.)  My thoughts being that 
an ARM cpu operates in more of an indeterminant manor than a CISC one.  True 
ARMs are used all the time for real real-time applications, but those are 
generally using a dedicated real-time os to do singular tasks, not trying to do 
real time within a threaded PC environment.   If this isn't the case would 
someone more familiar with the inner workings of computers please set me 
straight.

All that said, Pi3s have already been proven to work at least marginally, Pi4s 
to work adequately, and Pi5s???, but there's no evidence to expect less than 
the Pi4.

What was the question again?  And why did I type all this?  I'm just going to 
click send rather than delete, to try to justify my wasting of time.

Todd Zuercher
P. Graham Dunn Inc.
630 Henry Street
Dalton, Ohio 44618
Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031

-----Original Message-----
From: John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2024 12:38 PM
To: 'Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)' <emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.9.3 has been released

[EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe.

I've read a posting on another forum where the author states he's running 
LinuxCNC with a Raspberry Pi using the Pi4 (and now Pi5) I/O pins configured to 
duplicate the PC parallel port.  With the quad core processor on the Pi is it 
now fast enough to duplicate a PC with a parallel port or is the guy full of BS?
John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com]
> Sent: July 13, 2024 11:40 AM
> To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.9.3 has been released
>
> If the old Lenovo PC has ahard drive, or better yet an SSD inside,then
> it will run much better then the Pi4 that is runniong off an SD card.
> Those cards a re very slow.
>
> If you want to upgrade the hardware replace th mechanical hard drive
> in the PC with a SATA SSD.  If it already has an SSD, then you are
> good already
>
> > On Jul 13, 2024, at 11:24 AM, John Dammeyer <jo...@autoartisans.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com]
> >>
> >> On Sat, 13 Jul 2024 at 19:00, John Dammeyer
> >> <jo...@autoartisans.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Andy,
> >>> On my workbench for playing around I'm running 2.8.4 on a Pi4 with
> >>> an
> LCD
> >> touch screen and the MESA 7i92H.  How easy to update that?
> >>
> >> The best thing to do with a Pi is probably to make a new SD card
> >> from the LinuxCNC image, then copy your existing config across
> >> (probably easiest to put the linuxcnc folder on a USB stick then
> >> swap SD cards) Then you can always go back to the old, working, SD
> >> card if there is a problem.
> >>
> >
> > Thanks.  That's what I figured.
> > What about the 2.8.1 PC?  Better to replace it?  I picked it up
> > surplus for
> about $75 a number of years ago.  I have a second one as a spare.
> > John
> >
> >
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