This is all Gene’s fault. :-) His evangelism of steppers-servos has penetrated 
my thick skull. Side note: tinyG has signal pickoff before the final stage so 
it is possible to drive stepper servos off a tinyG.I’ve not gotten there yet 
but headed that way. Of course “the difference between theory and practice….”  
Be patient nothing I do these days is fast or efficient. Stay tuned!

D

> On Feb 22, 2025, at 5:41 PM, gene heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:
> 
> On 2/22/25 18:29, Dave Engvall wrote:
>> There is a method to my madness, to wit I really want to know how good, or 
>> bad the tinyG is. Older version of the emc interp but a much faster cycle 
>> time. Glass scales are problematic for velocity control but rather good for 
>> position. Servos on that machine with good encoders on the ball screw were 
>> much better at velocity control, roll that in with a glass scale for 
>> position and you have the best of both worlds.
> I've had very good results on the one machine I have converted to closed loop 
> stepper/servo's. Totally doing away with the PID's. Feedback is from the TP 
> that drives that axis, the stepper/servo's have their own PID's. My sheldon 
> rapids are 2x faster, and quite a bit more accurate. The TP outputs good 
> code. These motors stay w/in a count of error And it makes beautiful metal. 
> Well within the thousandths I wrote the code to do. No ticklish PID tuning 
> ever, no PID's to function as rubber bands, so what the TP spits out is 
> exactly what the motor does.
>>> On Feb 20, 2025, at 1:41 AM, Todd Zuercher <tzuercher1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> If they are equidistant wouldn't simply use them the same as an ordinary
>>> encoder index signed?
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2025, 4:09 AM Andy Pugh <bodge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Feb 2025, at 17:15, Dave Engvall <dengv...@charter.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think both have R marks at 50 mm intervals.
>>>>> Seems logical?
>>>> There are systems where the index marks are at varying distances from each
>>>> other such that you know exactly where you are after seeing two marks.
>>>> There was discussion of this on the forum, which resulted in the homing
>>>> process being modularised, (HOMEMOD)
>>>> I don’t recall if we saw a suitable HOMEMOD module for this style of scale
>>>> in that thread.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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