Nice work.  I am going to be travelling for a couple of weeks but will fold
all this into emms-mpris on my return.

---Fran



On Thu, 2 Mar 2023 at 18:10, Yoni Rabkin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yoni Rabkin <[email protected]> writes:
>
> > Yoni Rabkin <[email protected]> writes:
> >
> >> "Fran Burstall (Gmail)" <[email protected]> writes:
> >>
> >>> emms-mpris changes pushed to main.
> >>>
> >>> Feel free to specify a unifying format.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Well, the API exposed by emms-volume.el is via emms-volume-*-change
> which
> >>> changes the volume by AMOUNT (a number).  What would be nice to know is
> >>> what the number being changed is!  I would like it to be an integer
> between
> >>> 0 (mute) and 100 (maximum volume).
> >>>
> >>> The pulseaudio controller provides this already via
> >>> emms-volume--pulse-get-volume.  None of the others do and I have no
> insight
> >>> as to whether "volume as a number between 0 and 100" even makes sense
> for
> >>> the underlying backends.
> >>>
> >>> As far as emms-mpris is concerned, it would be wonderful if
> emms-volume.el
> >>> exposed a function emms-volume-get-volume which returned this putative
> >>> number.
> >>
> >> There is now a "volume" branch:
> >> https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emms.git/log/?h=volume
> >>
> >> I'll toss some changes into that which we can discuss.
> >
> > Now `emms-volume-get' is defined in emms-volume.el in the "volume"
> > branch for pulseaudio (instead of "emms-volume-get-volume").
> >
> > Next I'll see how easy/hard/impossible it is to implement when we drop
> > down from pulseaudio to alsa,
>
> amixer getter function implemented. We now also determine the correct
> getter function on the fly to avoid getting the volume from one command
> line and setting it using another.
>
> This is a real concern, seeing as how amixer, pactl, and mpc can all be
> present on a system simultaneously.
>
> Also, note the arbitraty limitation to the range [0-100]. We are going
> to ignore over-amplification settings as a rule. If anyone complains, we
> can add an exception.
>
> > then finally for mpd.
>
> this is next.
>
> >>> On Mon, 6 Feb 2023 at 15:03, Yoni Rabkin <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> "Fran Burstall (Gmail)" <[email protected]> writes:
> >>>>
> >>>> > I have pushed a new version of emms-mpris.el to the mpris branch.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for this work.
> >>>>
> >>>> I see no reason though not to simply push this to main. Unless your
> work
> >>>> is highly experimental, or there is another compelling reason, please
> go
> >>>> ahead and do the development of mpris in main where everyone can get
> >>>> those updates easily.
> >>>>
> >>>> Anyone who is running Emms off of the main git repo needs to be OK
> with
> >>>> living on the bleeding edge.
> >>>>
> >>>> > What's new:
> >>>> > * Support changing LoopStatus and Shuffle properties
> >>>> > * Fix a couple of problems with the artUrl field of the Metadata
> >>>> property.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Many mpris controllers do not support LoopStatus and Shuffle
> (playerctl
> >>>> is
> >>>> > an honourable exception) but if you have access to a controller
> that does
> >>>> > support this, it would be great to have some testing!
> >>>> >
> >>>> > The only thing in the mpris spec that is left for implementation is
> >>>> > changing the volume.  The issue here is that every volume backend
> reports
> >>>> > the volume in a different way, sigh.  So there would have to be some
> >>>> > unifying work on emms-volume-* first.  Is there any appetite for
> this?
> >>>>
> >>>> emms-volume-* unifying work should be done in a separate branch unless
> >>>> there is a way of working on that without destabilizing main too much.
> >>>>
> >>>> Feel free to specify a unifying format.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think that different people can work on different backends, based on
> >>>> what they have on their machines. I have pulseaudio running on this
> >>>> machine (a bog-standard Trisquel 10.0.1 install). So I could do that
> >>>> once we have a unifying format to work to.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>    "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice"
> >>>>
>
> --
>    "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice"
>

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