Hi Yoni,

Is the latest version of emms-radio-browser acceptable?  Shall I
document in the manual?

---Fran



On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 at 23:07, Fran Burstall (Gmail) <fran.burst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have pushed a new version that uses a macro to do conditional definition
> of the transient depending on emacs and transient versions.  I have no idea
> if this is good practice but it works.  This version compiles w/o errors or
> warnings and runs on emacs 29.3 and 30.0.93.  The search UI is a little
> different on 29.3 but all search functionality is there.
>
> ---Fran
>
> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 at 09:10, Fran Burstall (Gmail) <
> fran.burst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The"new" bits of transient that prevent compilation on 29.3 are
>>
>> * the documentation block at the top of the form
>> * the toggling of advanced search
>>
>> I will have a look and see if I can replicate these with an older version
>> of transient.  Otherwise I guess we wait until emacs-30 becomes
>> wide-spread...
>>
>> ---Fran
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 14 Jan 2025 at 00:18, Yoni Rabkin <y...@rabkins.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Fran Burstall (Gmail)" <fran.burst...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>> > But I can reproduce with emacs 29.3.  How frustrating: it seems that
>>> > transient has changed quite a bit in the last year or two.  I will
>>> > experiment...
>>> >
>>> > ---Fran
>>>
>>> I was on the way to saying the same thing and you beat me to it. We'll
>>> need it to work on the latest released version of Emacs for inclusion in
>>> a release (otherwise ELPA complains). I think that would be 29.4.
>>>
>>> That's the convenience of having it in a branch though; we can get to it
>>> at any point.
>>>
>>> > On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 at 23:07, Fran Burstall (Gmail) <
>>> fran.burst...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I get a compilation error:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>     "emms-radio-browser.el:336:2: Error: Need command, got ‘:info’"
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>  Hmmm,  I cannot reproduce.  Starting from emacs -Q, I add the emms
>>> dir to
>>> >> the loadpath and then bytecompile the emms-radio-browser file.  I get
>>> no
>>> >> errors.  This is on emacs 30.0.93.
>>> >>
>>> >> ---Fran
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, 13 Jan 2025 at 21:19, Yoni Rabkin <y...@rabkins.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> "Fran Burstall (Gmail)" <fran.burst...@gmail.com> writes:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Can you please open a branch with this code in it so that we can
>>> test
>>> >>> >> and try it out easily?
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Yup: the 'radio-browser' branch should be ready for testing now.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The feature looks great, but I get a compilation error:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>     "emms-radio-browser.el:336:2: Error: Need command, got ‘:info’"
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> > On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 at 19:33, Yoni Rabkin <y...@rabkins.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >> "Fran Burstall (Gmail)" <fran.burst...@gmail.com> writes:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> > I started to play with the https://www.radio-browser.info API
>>> and
>>> >>> built
>>> >>> >> a
>>> >>> >> > radio station browser for EMMS which I attach.
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > There are three entry points
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > emms-radio-browser-search-by-name
>>> >>> >> > emms-radio-browser-search-by-url
>>> >>> >> > emms-radio-browser-full-search
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > All search the radio-browser database and return a playlist of
>>> >>> results.
>>> >>> >> > The last of these needs the (built-in since v28.1) transient
>>> package.
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > It has only been lightly tested.
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > If you think this is a worthwhile addition to EMMS, I can add
>>> it to
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> >> git
>>> >>> >> > repo and write some documentation...
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> > ---Fran
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> I think that sounds good; thank you for working on this.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Can you please open a branch with this code in it so that we can
>>> test
>>> >>> >> and try it out easily?
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> > On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 17:11, Fran Burstall (Gmail) <
>>> >>> >> fran.burst...@gmail.com>
>>> >>> >> > wrote:
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >> >> I have been playing with emms-streams and with
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >>    (setopt emms-player-mpv-update-metadata t)
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> it is very capable.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> One mild pain point however is that adding a new stream with
>>> >>> >> >> 'emms-add-streamlist' and friends gives a streamlist with less
>>> >>> >> information
>>> >>> >> >> than the built-in streamlists: it lacks the metadata field
>>> which is
>>> >>> >> useful
>>> >>> >> >> for getting the station name (which can then be fed to a
>>> >>> >> track-description
>>> >>> >> >> function to make for a more informative display in the playlist
>>> >>> buffer).
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> Of course, one can populate such a field by hand and this is
>>> what I
>>> >>> have
>>> >>> >> >> been doing but There Must Be A Better Way.  This is the sort of
>>> >>> thing
>>> >>> >> that
>>> >>> >> >> the unimplemented emms-streams-info.el could be doing but I
>>> >>> understand
>>> >>> >> that
>>> >>> >> >> querying the url for such information is a bit of a nightmare
>>> (does
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> >> >> stream have ICY tags etc).  There have been previous
>>> discussions on
>>> >>> this
>>> >>> >> >> list about this.
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> However, there seems to be an alternative:
>>> >>> >> https://www.radio-browser.info
>>> >>> >> >> is a free (as in freedom, as far as I can tell) repository of
>>> >>> station
>>> >>> >> >> information with an API.  Perhaps one could query this to get
>>> >>> metadata
>>> >>> >> >> about the stream?
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> One could also imagine other uses of this data like a radio
>>> station
>>> >>> >> >> browser in EMMS or being able to add streams by name rather
>>> than
>>> >>> url...
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> Thoughts?  Worth pursuing?
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >> ---Fran
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >>
>>> >>> >> >
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> --
>>> >>> >>    "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice"
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --
>>> >>>    "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice"
>>> >>>
>>> >>
>>>
>>> --
>>>    "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice"
>>>
>>

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