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Excellent point, Garrett. 

I’m interested in this shift from analogue to digital when document no longer 
become as significant as code. I’m wondering whether it help move discussion on 
documentary away from representation towards operation. 

> On Apr 16, 2018, at 13:07, Garrett Lynch <garr...@asquare.org> wrote:
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> For us, code is not a document.  Document suggests a singular 'thing' or at 
> least a group of things in proximity and closely held together.  The nature 
> of code is that it can't be thought of as a document, physical or 'real' 
> analogies don't work well.  Even the simplest type of code, say for example 
> HTML (which is technically not code but has some of the same qualities) 
> incorporates whole other 'documents' (e.g. images), parts of other documents 
> (e.g. classes and functions) and those can be distributed anywhere when you 
> factor in a network.  Document in new media is simply an agreed dumbed down 
> term for the benefit of communicating - similar to desktop as I mentioned and 
> one of my own best loved/most hated, 'virtual'.
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 6:34 PM, Dale Hudson <dmh2...@nyu.edu 
> <mailto:dmh2...@nyu.edu>> wrote:
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> Thanks, Luke and Garrett, for this discussion.
> I agree about the shortcomings in reducing operational to optical. If 
> anything, the foregrounding of the operation of coding and transcoding should 
> heighten our awareness of the mechanical and chemical operations to capture 
> and render analogue images.
> I’ve been interested in new media (for lack of a better term) documentaries 
> (also for lack of a better term) that instruct users in how data is tagged, 
> sorted, and rendered into information, as well as the structural limitations 
> to the kinds of information that can be rendered.
> I’ve also been interested in documentaries that emerge in different 
> iterations, conforming to the limitations of a particular venue but then 
> morphing for other venues. This variation also seems important as a mode of 
> instruction that teaches critical practices of “interacting” with digital 
> media. 
> In terms of documentary’s relationship with the visual, I have colleagues who 
> work in documentary poetry and theater. For them written or audio testimony 
> is a document. 
> I am interested to know what people think (or whether people think) of code 
> as a “document.” 
> Best,
> Dale
> -- 
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> Garrett
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