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آلن نوشت: "machine-time reminds me of Sartre's analysis in Critique of Dialectical Reason about people working on assembly line" For sure, and I remember Sarah Cook citing in the discussion for 24/7: A Wake-up Call For Our Non-stop World at Somerset house that Facebook had an internal document discussing sleep as the platform's chief challenge to growth, In a way, this is the end goal of the attention economy - 24/7 attention, where our time is no longer our own, and all affect is harvested as capital by the infoindustrial complex. however, Alan also note the other flow facilitated by technology, like when we communicate through whatsapp on demand. I think the issue might be agency an d volition in submitting to the affective flow state or having it imposed upon us. On Wed, 19 May 2021 22:00:57 -0400, Alan Sondheim <sondh...@panix.com> wrote: ----------empyre- soft-skinned space---------------------- Hi, just wanted to say I quite like this and machine-time reminds me of Sartre's analysis in Critique of Dialectical Reason about people working on assembly lines - I forget the exact quote, but it's something like "It's the machine in them that did the dreaming." That resonates; machine time, AI, and the like are internally timeless in a sense, even with the calculations measured, and program breakdowns, ransoms which suspend program time, or one program time for another, and so forth. So when you write about " collaborating with our six year old son to make and edit songs in GarageBand. We lose track of time. We make our own fun. That flow is between us, " I think of the flow among bodies and all the "messiness" of human life, and that's a kind of epiphany in a sense - Best Alan On Wed, 19 May 2021, Rebecca Rouse wrote: > Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 20:41:12 +0000 > From: Rebecca Rouse > To: "empyre@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au" > Subject: [-empyre-] Thinking about Flow and Real-Time in Pandemic-Time: > Twitter, GarageBand, and Pianos > > ----------empyre- soft-skinned space---------------------- _______________________________________________ empyre forum empyre@lists.artdesign.unsw.edu.au http://empyre.library.cornell.edu
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