hello Sean, but the problem is: has the difference between Evil and Innocents to be tanken for granted ? Of course not, so what does Good means if this difference has to be de-constructed (or erased) ? Maybe this name is just able to produce another split.
Unless Good means : something without a form, a shape, something 'beyond any Ideas' as Plato said in The Republic. Art has to do something with this Good-without-a-form - and the name for this is the sublime, isn't it ? Frederic Selon Sean Cubitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > A catastrophe in its ordinary running, and a crisis-prone > catastrophe. > > Fifteen years ago, or maybe twebnty, Jimmie Durham noticed that the > invading > white men accused the native Americans of rape, scalping, > gratuitous > slaughter of whole villages . . . But that of course it was the > other way > round. Who still believes violence is repressed in liberal > capitalist > democracies? It is the everyday rapes, pillage and murders by which > capitalism manages to profit from its own catastrophic nature. The > unending > terror that began with Calvin still populates the very heart of > commerce > (and the state is its executive branch) > > The problem now can be phrased like this: The world is split > between Evil > (regimes, terrorists . . .) and Innocent (civilians, victims . . . > ). There > is no room left for the Good. What art can do uniquely is to speak > of the > Good, that is of the very thing that does not exist in or for > contemporary > capitalism > > sean > > > > > On 29/11/08 10:21 AM, "Verena Conley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Excellent point. Of course, terror is endemic to capitalism. > Though we still > > have to define it. > > Also, since earlier we spoke of catastrophes, it seems fairly > safe to say that > > free market capitalism the way it was practiced since 1989 but > especially 2000 > > is the real catastrophe. > > > > Verena > > > > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 5:05 PM, simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Does this mean - the following - the following (too late), which > my > >> earlier post was an attempting to articulate: that capital > encodes > >> terror? makes use of it in its flows of symbolic exchange? as if > having > >> reached a critical velocity, the accident of history is given to > >> returning endlessly? > >> > >> Or conversely has there been some sort of symbolic phase shift > whereby > >> the simulacrum, the coded world, that Image of > >> thought-as-representation, now only runs by circulating, through > the > >> circulation of, acts/networked nodes of terrestrial and > extraterrestrial > >> terror? Is capital now entrained in the duration of terror? (As > we are > >> entrained in the durations of its spectacular technological > means.) > >> > >> Simon Taylor > >> > >> www.squarewhiteworld.com <http://www.squarewhiteworld.com> > >> www.brazilcoffee.co.nz <http://www.brazilcoffee.co.nz> > >> > >> > >> Nicholas Ruiz III wrote: > >>> > As a reflection of the transparency of evil (Baudrillard), > the whole > >>> > lot of it, Mumbai, etc.--is commerical art...and the millions > of > >>> > downloads, transmissions and commentaries are its market, > paid for in > >>> > broadcast fees, cable and satellite subscriptions and > financed by > >>> > advertisers: with media art critics and all! We are > enveloped by a > >>> > postmodern Roman media coliseum, where gladiatorial urges are > elicited > >>> > and fulfilled, where spectators take part in the war games, > which are > >>> > repeated endlessly and archived for posterity on the Network. > >>> > > >>> > NRIII > >>> > > >>> > Nicholas Ruiz III, Ph.D > >>> > Editor, Kritikos > >>> > http://intertheory.org > >>> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> empyre forum > >> empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au > >> http://www.subtle.net/empyre > > > > > > Prof Sean Cubitt > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Director > Media and Communications Program > Faculty of Arts > Room 127 John Medley East > The University of Melbourne > Parkville VIC 3010 > Australia > > Tel: + 61 3 8344 3667 > Fax:+ 61 3 8344 5494 > M: 0448 304 004 > Skype: seancubitt > http://www.culture-communication.unimelb.edu.au/media-communications/ > http://homepage.mac.com/waikatoscreen/ > http://seancubitt.blogspot.com/ > http://del.icio.us/seancubitt > > Editor-in-Chief Leonardo Book Series > http://leonardo.info > > _______________________________________________ empyre forum empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au http://www.subtle.net/empyre
