..on Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 05:35:03PM -0500, christopher sullivan wrote: > > and Julian your definition was perfect, towering over all other possible > attempts, you must understand the small mind I have to work with.. Chris.
Chris I liked your definitions, certainly far more fun/complex than what I came up with. Nonetheless, you asked me for a definition and so I gave it. To clarify: personally I think 'prototyping' doesn't need a whole lot of definition, it's simply (already) any process of defining something; most commonly an idea, up until the point the prototype acheives the intended utility and/or is ready to be copied. Sometimes that might involve developing concrete intermediary forms (a polystyrene mock-up of an industrial design, code sketch) other times ephemeral (a critical debate (prototyping answers) or a night club (prototyping selves)). In our case, on this list, we're prototyping definitions of prototyping. Cheers, Julian > > > Quoting Julian Oliver <jul...@julianoliver.com>: > > > ..on Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 06:07:24PM -0500, christopher sullivan wrote: > > > definitions, I think we are not all talking about the same thing. > > > so here are my worst case and best case definitions of prototyping. > > > > [..] > > > > > > > > > what is your definition? > > > > > > > (earlier) > > > > Prototyping is any test of expectation > > > > or: > > > > Prototyping is practicing real. > > > > or: > > > > Prototyping is an attempt to reverse engineer the imagined. > > > > We could go on forever while forgetting that prototyping itself escapes > > definition. This is because it itself is the very process of definition, of > > 'defining'. > > > > To recurse, your email was (expressly) a Prototype Definition. > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- > > Julian Oliver > > home: New Zealand > > based: Berlin, Germany > > currently: Berlin, Germany > > about: http://julianoliver.com > > > > > Quoting Julian Oliver <jul...@julianoliver.com>: > > > > > > > ..on Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 03:10:01PM -0000, Johannes Birringer wrote: > > > > > >> Davin wrote:>> At one point in time, discrete objects were things > > that > > > > were considered prototypes that could be thrown into an existing system > > and > > > > tested. Increasingly, it seems like the prototypes are geared to test > > > > individual and collective consciousness. In other words, maybe we are > > the > > > > prototypes? Being tested so that we can be effectively processed, > > > > shrink-wrapped, labeled, bought and sold>> > > > > > > > > Hmm, This statement from Davin confused me also. I thought it was fairly > > > > clear > > > > that any act of learning - or any 'attempt', which all action is at it's > > root > > > > - > > > > simultaneously produces the self as a prototype, even if only for the > > > > duration > > > > of that act. The very notion of a prototype assumes a platonic and > > > > eventuating > > > > objecthood, a finished thing. When are people ever so singularly > > resolved? > > > > > > > > Second order prototyping is the work of other people, especially > > > > aquaintances, > > > > marketeers and those that resource people. > > > > > > > > Beast, > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Julian Oliver > > > > home: New Zealand > > > > based: Berlin, Germany > > > > currently: Berlin, Germany > > > > about: http://julianoliver.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > empyre forum > > > > empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au > > > > http://www.subtle.net/empyre > > > > > > > > > > > > > Christopher Sullivan > > > Dept. of Film/Video/New Media > > > School of the Art Institute of Chicago > > > 112 so michigan > > > Chicago Ill 60603 > > > csu...@saic.edu > > > 312-345-3802 > > > > > > > Christopher Sullivan > Dept. of Film/Video/New Media > School of the Art Institute of Chicago > 112 so michigan > Chicago Ill 60603 > csu...@saic.edu > 312-345-3802 -- Julian Oliver home: New Zealand based: Berlin, Germany currently: Berlin, Germany about: http://julianoliver.com _______________________________________________ empyre forum empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au http://www.subtle.net/empyre
