thanks Ana! On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 7:43 PM, Ana Valdés <agora...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I was there a week only but all ppl I met (Turks everyone) told me they > felt the "turkization" and the erasing of the Byzantine past, very well > related in the book "From the Holy Mountain", by William Dalrymple. > He did a trip between the monasteries in Syria, Palestina and Turkey and > saw the intentionality of the erasing of all traces of former cultures. > Did you enter the Hagia Sofia? Crumbling away with zero maintenance... > Ana > > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 8:48 AM, Michel Bauwens > <mic...@p2pfoundation.net>wrote: > >> hi Ana, just wondering why you feel 'all the remnants of the past are >> crumbling away' ? On the contrary, I feel the successive layers of history >> are very much alive, and also the mixity of the population and the >> neighborhoods >> , with so many recent first-generation immigrants from the rural Anatolian >> countryside, represent quite a mixture of temporalities, etc ... very unlike >> western europe, where only the buildings remain ... extented families and >> village cooperative solidarity also remain realities, as far as I could >> ascertain from speaking with Turkish friends (I gave a lecture to an >> all-turkish audience yesterday) >> >> Michel >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Ana Valdés <agora...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I am bit curious about how did the people who travelled to Istanbul for >>> the first time experienced the city itself, Turkey and all the >>> contradictions and the multiple layers of meaning residing in this old city >>> where all the remnants of it's past are crumbling away. As you know many >>> Turks want to be a part of Europe and join the EC, but many others want keep >>> the country's isolation. >>> Ana >>> >>> -- >>> http://www.twitter.com/caravia1585353 >>> >>> http://www.scoop.it/t/art-and-activism/ >>> http://www.scoop.it/t/food-history-and-trivia, wi >>> >>> mobil/cell +4670-3213370 >>> >>> >>> "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with >>> your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you will always >>> long to return. >>> — Leonardo da Vinci >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> empyre forum >>> empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au >>> http://www.subtle.net/empyre >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net >> >> Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: >> http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation >> >> Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; >> http://twitter.com/mbauwens55; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> empyre forum >> empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au >> http://www.subtle.net/empyre >> > > > > -- > http://www.twitter.com/caravia15853 > http://www.scoop.it/t/art-and-activism/ > http://www.scoop.it/t/food-history-and-trivia > http://www.scoop.it/t/gender-issues/ > http://www.scoop.it/t/literary-exiles/ > http://www.scoop.it/t/museums-and-ethics/ > http://www.scoop.it/t/urbanism-3-0 > http://www.scoop.it/t/postcolonial-mind/ > > > mobil/cell +4670-3213370 > > > "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with > your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been and there you will always > long to return. > — Leonardo da Vinci > > _______________________________________________ > empyre forum > empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au > http://www.subtle.net/empyre > -- P2P Foundation: http://p2pfoundation.net - http://blog.p2pfoundation.net Connect: http://p2pfoundation.ning.com; Discuss: http://lists.ourproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/p2p-foundation Updates: http://del.icio.us/mbauwens; http://friendfeed.com/mbauwens; http://twitter.com/mbauwens; http://www.facebook.com/mbauwens
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