These distinctions between practice-led-based are at best fuzzy. I'm not keen 
on using the terms exclusively. There are many ways of doing a PhD with 
creative practice as a key element and to try and distinguish between two 
models ignores the diverse approaches and methods that can be employed. One of 
the advantages of creative practitioners doing PhDs is that they are not as 
methodologically constrained as those working in many other more conventional 
academic subjects. Hybridity is default in this area and the methods any one 
candidate might work with can vary, depending on the epistemological frameworks 
they are engaging. I rarely find PhDs that are weak because of their 
methodology. That is to say, they might be weak in method, but that is not 
where the problem began. Usually it starts with the theoretical basis, 
framework, context of the project. If the project lacks such focus then its 
methods are likely to lack rigour simply because there are no criteria against 
which to measure an outcome without a theoretical context. The place to begin a 
PhD is at its end, understanding who will be reading it and why. The end of the 
PhD is at its beginning, being able to articulate that from the outset.

best

Simon


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On 23 Jan 2013, at 10:52, Cecile Chevalier <[email protected]> wrote:

In response to Keith...

Unfortunately Practice-Led or Practice-Based research are themselves lost in 
translation from one field/institution/individual/reference to another, which 
in my opinion is one of the problem art practice has as research - if basic 
terminologies and definitions  such as 'Practice-Led' or 'Practice-Based' could 
be agreed or constant - we would get a clearer impressions of "how we [as 
research practitioner]manifest in the world" of art practice as research. 


Another definition, find online, that reflected some of the readings done in 
the early stage of my PhD...
http://www.creativityandcognition.com/research/practice-based-research/differences-between-practice-based-and-practice-led-research/
"If a creative artefact is the basis of the contribution to knowledge, the 
research is practice-based"
"If the research leads primarily to new understandings about practice, it is 
practice-led." (and therefore no absolute in having a final artefact produced)

Cécile
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Hi All

Its a curious thing trying to follow a list that balloons dramatically 
overnight and contracts also entirely when Im awake (European predominance!)  
with various threads that intermingle: interesting too that some single posts 
don't make the digest and vice versa as far as I can see.  I can say Adrian 
Miles never sleeps (or maybe he's in Europe?) as he's onto the thread 
beautifully!  There seem to be also many voices that speak but garner no 
response - quite understandably .. all in a days list work I guess!

Clearly we are up against a range of very diverse positions that don't 
necessarily see what we do as either artists, creatives or academics or blends 
thereof in similar lights as you'd expect.

To note I don't think anyone with some form of university support (even with 
other tasks thrown in) should underestimate how valuable that can be for being 
able to keep ongoing focus on research (which is about 'contribution') : its 
truly a privilege .. allowing  more capacity, regardless of load,  to turn good 
artwork into transmissible forms of research (lets just think of this not as an 
imposition maybe but as generous extra layers of communication we can provide 
for others / as well as additional capacity for understanding 'whats actually 
going on') - - in my mind this does not 'necessarily' have to mean a train load 
of papers  'on top' - there are many other ways ..  that include statements for 
database recordings, web site entries, lectures and plain old conversations 
amongst peers.

Interestingly too, to add - there is also a clearly understood fact from 
psychology that the impressions of who we think we are and how we act rarely 
match  with how we manifest in the world. (e.g. I may think Im quite green and 
tell you so because I recycle my bottles, and yet I might make 5 international 
flights a year ..)

In terms of distinctions of research this may be helpful"

Practice-led research is that in which the creative practice leads the research 
in such a way that its major findings reside in the practice itself, which then 
becomes a central component of the examinable outcome. The thesis comprises 
more than 50% (up to 75%) of creative practice and less than 50% (to a minimum 
of 25%) of accompanying written text or exegesis, which illuminates / 
interprets / contextualises the creative practice. The research occurs through 
the practice which  informs methodology, content, context and conceptual 
frameworks.



Practice-based research also places practice at the centre of the research, but 
its findings provide insights about the practice even if they are discovered 
through the practice. The creative practice itself is not normally an 
examinable component of the thesis even if the creative process may be a major 
part of the methodology. A documentation of the practice becomes part of the 
thesis but not the practice itself. The word length is normally the same as a 
written thesis.

Cheers

Keith



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