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so much of this seems bad abstraction, yet I'm drawn in by Johannes's image to say, the stories we tell make up the body - but I don't like stories so perhaps I should say, the plots we make thicken as the body - since we don't yet know what a body can do...

On 04/07/13 17:08, Johannes Birringer wrote:
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dear all

following up on Terry Flaxton's postings, especially his suggestion to give emphasis to 
"practical investigations of consciousness"
rather than resist the increasing uselessness (?) of theory and ratiocinatory 
construction (obsessive compulsive rehearsing of highly stratified bureaucratic 
cataloguing of meaning),
may I ask about how Terry understands the exogram or the exogrammatic?

You write that cognitive neuroscientists claim

the human project [that] began simply by panto-miming to exchange information 
that would be remembered within the brain (engramatically) and eventually 
export all of human memory outside of our own minds into surrounding reality. 
Initially this was through a simple exogram like a storytelling, a henge, a 
pyramid, a book, a film and then recently, telematically.
But with the advent of computers and data (big or small, it doesn't matter) 
then the human exogramatic project was coming to its conclusion - everything 
has been placed outside of ourselves into surrounding reality...
is not the exogrammatic an import, rather than exported? is not exogrammatic 
knowledge and memory and kinetic and symbolic forms continuously re-adapted by 
the bodymind in our movement through the world, by necessity, as the 
unconscious, or engrammatic information, might be error prone to some extent, 
or overloaded, if it is true that the essential elements of our sense of the 
self – of the propensity for action and our memory – act at an unconscious 
level, not in the sense that they regard something being suppressed,  yet in 
the sense of a functional unconscious situated beyond the boundaries of 
awareness for purely operative reasons? I read somewhere that if all mental 
operations were carried out under the control of consciousness, human beings 
would be overloaded and therefore incapable of action.

May I shift momentarily from ISEA context to a small Montessori school in 
Houston, where yesterday by fluke if accident, I was invited to teach a dance 
class to 4 and 5-year olds?  The teachers there had told me that by age three, 
much of the child's development is in place, and by age six, there isn't too 
much more that can be affected and changed anymore as developmental pattern or 
identity has been set in motion  (through the mix of genetic information, 
learning, the sensorimotor functions, language acquisition and environmental 
influence).  I had not known really that our bodymind is shaped crucially at 
such an early stage, and  am ignorant of developmental psychology.

But I was experiencing the beauty of, if you want, the pantomine and the 
analogical imagination in the young children, as they went through a series of 
exercises with me culled from Yoga, sports, dance, vocal training, 
improvisation, music, rhythm, and the realm of kinaesthesia that I think has 
not been addressed yet in Terry's postings and the responses. I noticed that 
the children had no preconceived ideas of dance, but they enjoyed enacting all 
kinds of movements, also inventing motion on the spot or finding comparisons to 
what they saw others do (this is group learning, we were 18 people in the 
room), so external information is adopted and also internal information may not 
be cognitively known except in terms of motorsensory experience as well as 
through memory?  When I asked the children whether they had seen dance, only 
three or four said yes (some just looked at me curiously in silence, smiling), 
and each of them had something different in mind, one young girl mentioned the 
dance she remembered seeing in an animation (film) - and Terry, since she had 
no theory or concept of dance (of film for that matter) in the sense that her 
thinking mind got in the way, she was processing something (moving images or 
moving bodies). I don't know what.

Fascinating, however, was the teachers' quiet instance on observing the children (this month's theme in the 
Montessori school is "insects") and letting them try out, and this practical investigation of 
"dance", that we engaged, was to a large extent kinetic or kinaesthetic-playful (how does this 
connect to what you call entrainment?), and they did not necessarily follow the instructor, which I enjoyed 
much.  I have not idea whether "programs" were running already, but I sensed that nothing about the 
new paradigm (big data, everything placed outside) you evoke mattered here, we were still inside the group of 
shared activity, face to face, physically close, a good old paradigm.  I am also of course thinking of 
remembering information through the body here. The stories we tell each other return to body.

with regards
Johannes Birringer



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