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What a thoughtful response. I'm honored.  

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> On May 14, 2014, at 7:59 AM, "Alexander R. Galloway" <gallo...@nyu.edu> wrote:
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> Christina,
> 
> yes you read my mind. the "via negativa" is one of the things that I picked 
> up from reading Eugene Thacker's book "After Life" -- and it's a method that 
> has influenced me greatly in recent years (and incidentally syncs well with 
> Laruelle i'd say). This not to reinforce some sort of 
> transcendental--religious or otherwise--but rather to highlight how important 
> denial is for contemporary methodology. In other words, while much 
> contemporary thought operates through a logic of augmentation--more this, 
> more that--I'm much more excited by a logic of subtraction (one example of 
> which would be Badiou's theory of the event). In other words we need a kind 
> of anorexic philosophy, not an inflated one. Thinking is hamstrung by claims 
> to sufficiency; thought is only liberated via the common. I see this as the 
> key to unlocking the non-human.
> 
> Ken might be able to say more here, but in the book we were interested in how 
> religious thinking gets taken up by theory and philosophy. so Badiou has his 
> St Paul, Zizek has his Job, Agamben his St Francis, etc. For his part 
> Laruelle focuses on the resurrection. I find the evangelical strains of 
> Badiou's Paulinism a bit wearisome in the present climate, but I understand 
> how it's necessary for a voluntarist form of militancy. 
> 
> a secular "via negativa" is interesting to me, and i see it as a way to 
> understand the common. not an inflated universal subject. but a deflated 
> generic person (arrived at via subtraction or negation). this connects to 
> renate's comments too about Gandhi and King. 
> 
> and your last comment is great: a revelation from “God”. i think yes, 
> although this might not be God in the normal sense (nor revelation)! I'm a 
> student of the Spinoza/Marx/Deleuze version of God: let's banish metaphysics 
> in favor of a flat material plane. and if "spirit" exists it exists right 
> here and now.
> 
> lots of material to ponder. thanks,
> 
> -ag
> 
> 
>> On May 11, 2014, at 7:00 PM, christ...@christinamcphee.net wrote:
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>> Alexander et al, 
>> 
>> To insist on focussing our ethics on a strategy of infinite (as in, 
>> non-relational) withdrawal has antecedents in the Orthodox spiritual 
>> tradition of the via negativa.   
>> 
>> Your (AG’s) discussion of James Turrell’s light installations in ‘light of’ 
>> Laruelle’s theory of non-photography resonates with me to that tradition, 
>> and even to the figure that LaRuelle throws up, the Son of Man.  St. Matthew 
>> calls Jesus the “Son of Man” rather than “Son of God” more often than not.  
>> Matthew is writing in an attempt to link the story of Jesus to an historical 
>> geneology of culture-heroes in the Hebraic written tradition and oral 
>> history and community consciousness during a time of tremendous catastrophic 
>> and ongoing loss of those community values. Perhaps also, if you can indulge 
>> a psycho-history, to a loss of a sense of God’s presence among His chosen. 
>> 
>> At the same time, Matthew’s invocation of “Son of Man” also radically points 
>> to the transcendent arrival of an agent whose parentage is of “Man” , i. e. 
>> not just the Jewish people or any tribe, but an ultimate Man.  It’s not for 
>> nothing that Pasolini chooses Matthew as his text for his film “The Gospel 
>> according to St Matthew” : Pasolini rightly builds on the radical 
>> implications of the figure of Christ as arising directly from a 
>> transcendence that gathers force not alongside, or against, but “in, with, 
>> and under” the people— transubstantiation.  On the level of poetics if not 
>> politics, Pasolini’s agnosticisms consider the possibility of accord with an 
>> ’too-innocent philosophy’ — but, by means of making of the film itself, with 
>> Palestinians, in ‘Palestine” , reject a radicalism of extraction of the 
>> Logos; no, for PPP, the Logos is in and among us qua film qua life qua body 
>> and blood.  In contrast— an opposite politics--- in your discourse on 
>> Turrell via LaRuelle, AG?  I’d like to explore this further, starting here: 
>> 
>> As one blogger recently notes
>> 
>> …. the beginning of the determination of a too innocent philosophy, a 
>> non-philosophy, a supra-rational innocence, which could only expressly mean 
>> the immortalization of the Logos through the extraction of all its radical 
>> conceivability in history, already practiced or imagined, the only reason, 
>> ne plus 
>> ultra.http://veraqivas.wordpress.com/category/immanent-philosophy/francois-laruelle/page/2/
>> 
>> 
>> Imagine this binary, just for a moment (it may or may not be provisional).  
>> Let’s say : where Pasolini and Matthew remain on one side of a chasm,  on 
>> the other stands LaRuelle, the non-philosopher who may not presume to 
>> partake (through history, through ethics, through the spoken word, through 
>> the moving image..) community or communitarian values. If Matthew the 
>> historian, and Pasolini, artist of proto-Christian atheism, stand for and 
>> with community--with or without ‘God’ (AKA the noumenous) --through the 
>> figuration of relation and partaking (taking part) (=transubstantiation) of 
>> the Son of Man; then on the other side, LaRuelle proposes to stands in for, 
>> contra or at least in figure/ground opposition, to community--with or 
>> without “Man” (AKA the human community) . Alexander, are you also there with 
>> LaRuelle, or is this binary too stark? 
>> 
>> Listening to your talk, Alexander, on Incredible Machines, considering James 
>> Turrell’s installations as evidence of LaRuelle’s theory of non-photography, 
>> I immediately turned back to Laruelle’s desire for the Son of Man. (I must 
>> confess I am relying on impressions I had when I listened to your live talk) 
>>  Alexander, your manifesto is “ to articulate a logic being that is not 
>> reducible to a metaphysics of exchange… ‘there will be no more messages.” 
>> And you go on to point to a “logic of relation..without the….model of 
>> exchange. “ It’s possible  Laruelle espouses a (non)-figuration of the 
>> transcendent angel en arrivant. 
>> 
>> So: to propose a chasm here.  No exchange, means no more messages, means in 
>> its equal and opposite expression (since if there is no more  x->y or y->x 
>> there can only be x= not-x).   Turrell’s light objects, in order to be 
>> understood as new information, new knowledge….  need not require a St 
>> Matthew-esque historicity with antecedents like Moholy-Nagy, Naum Gabo, El 
>> Lissitsky…  They can arrive, like angels… ? 
>> 
>> I take it that 'the new meta-narrative to guide us’ — (AG, below) partakes 
>> of this only-reason, this new plus ultra of an arrival of an angel in the 
>> subject-site of theorist. Could Turrell’s space-time-image manifest the 
>> arrival of something new, like this? A Logos, of a sort? The canard of art 
>> as knowledge-production goes to something else, something very interesting.  
>> Since always otherwise words partake of the play of the trace, the way from 
>> above is to make the person-space-time of the Logos an embodied speech act?  
>>  A via-negativa speaks, from a space of non-relation, non-photography— from 
>> the somewhat disingenuously described ‘too-innocent’ site that is outside of 
>> perceivable substance?  No transubstantiation, because the Son of Man, for 
>> Laruelle, arrives without a body, without the body of the human, without the 
>> body of community, and is self-born, self-generating, “like” (oops) God…. ?
>> 
>> Does Laruelle’s extravagance around angels as theorists and theorists as 
>> angels deserve special notice as an auto-epipanic event- LaRuelle recreates 
>> himself ? Can we do the same? At the ‘event-horizon’ of the human…  
>> 
>> What do you think, Alex, does your argument of withdrawal exclude all 
>> “poetics of relation” (Glissante) with a sublimity (angel-theorist-Son of 
>> Man) in its place?   So seems to be the logic of commentators around 
>> LaRuelle. like Grelet (trans. Brassier) here 
>> http://www.onphi.net/texte-son-of-man--brother-of-the-people--behold-the-theorist-29.html
>> 
>> But perhaps you imply something more nuanced. I began my comment with a 
>> mention of the ‘via negativa’.  Would you instead be proposing, via Turrell 
>> a negative theology? 
>> 
>> "n negative theology, it is accepted that experience of the Divine is 
>> ineffable, an experience of the holy that can only be recognized or 
>> remembered abstractly. That is, human beings cannot describe in words the 
>> essence of the perfect good that is unique to the individual, nor can they 
>> define the Divine, in its immense complexity, related to the entire field of 
>> reality. As a result, all descriptions if attempted will be ultimately false 
>> and conceptualization should be avoided. In effect, divine experience eludes 
>> definition by definition:”  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophatic_theology
>> 
>> So, to put it in tragicomic mode, and yet I am serious,  is this new 
>> meta-narrative about a revelation from “God”?
>> 
>> 
>> Christina
>> 
>> http://christinamcphee.net
>> 
>> Incredible Machines/ Alexander Galloway March 6 2014  
>> http://incrediblemachines.info/keynote-speakers/galloway/
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 11, 2014, at 7:25 AM, Alexander R. Galloway <gallo...@nyu.edu> wrote:
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>>> Dear Soraya & Co..
>>> 
>>> I guess part of the impetus is that I'm surprised--if not unnerved--by the 
>>> way in which networks have captured and eclipsed other ways of thinking. A 
>>> new pantheon of dot-com philosophers reigns supreme today, ready to 
>>> proclaim at every turn that “everything is a network.” Mark Zuckerberg: 
>>> people are networks. Donald Rumsfeld: the battlefield is a network. Bruno 
>>> Latour: ontology is a network. Franco Moretti: Hamlet is a network. David 
>>> Joselit: Art is a network. Guy Debord: the post-capitalist city is a 
>>> network. John Von Neumann: computation is a network. Konrad Wachsmann: 
>>> architecture is a network.
>>> 
>>> Ladies and gentlemen, postmodernism is definitively over! We have a new 
>>> meta-narrative to guide us.
>>> 
>>> We might label this a kind of “reticular pessimism.” And here I'm taking a 
>>> cue from the notion of “Afro-pessimism” in critical race theory. Just as 
>>> Afro-pessimism refers to the trap in which African-American identity is 
>>> only ever defined via the fetters of its own historical evolution, 
>>> reticular pessimism claims, in essence, that there is no escape from the 
>>> fetters of the network. There is no way to think in, through, or beyond 
>>> networks except in terms of networks themselves. According to reticular 
>>> pessimism, responses to networked power are only able to be conceived in 
>>> terms of other network forms. (And thus to fight Google and the NSA we need 
>>> ecologies, assemblages, or multiplicities.)
>>> 
>>> By offering no alternative to the network form, reticular pessimism is 
>>> deeply cynical because it forecloses any kind of utopian thinking that 
>>> might entail an alternative to our many pervasive and invasive networks.
>>> 
>>> This is part of the mandate of this book, as I see it: to articulate a 
>>> logic of being that is not reducible to a metaphysics of exchange, to a 
>>> metaphysics of the network. This to me is the promise of excommunication: 
>>> the message that says “there will be no more messages”; a logic of 
>>> relation, without the tired, old model of exchange.
>>> 
>>> So, yes, strategic withdrawal is at the heart of what interests me most. 
>>> Some are a bit skeptical about this notion of withdrawal -- often because 
>>> they see in a negative light as alternatively a surrender monkey position 
>>> (i give up! i'm outta here!), or a position of privilege (the political 
>>> equivalent of opening a bank account in the Cayman Islands). But I see it 
>>> very differently. I see it more as a withdrawal from representation. A 
>>> structural withdrawal. I see it as a way to conceive of a kind of practical 
>>> utopia in the here and now. "You don't represent us." "No one is illegal." 
>>> "I would prefer not to." "We have no demands." Yes I realize utopian 
>>> thinking is very unfashionable today; that's precisely why we need so much 
>>> more of it. So perhaps less a bunker mentality and more about the 
>>> reclaiming of a new experience of life and activity. 
>>> 
>>> Re: obsolescence of theory -- perhaps it hinges on *which* kind of theory? 
>>> I don't agree with Latour and the notion that "theory has run out of 
>>> steam." Marxism, feminism, psycho-analysis -- they all still work great if 
>>> you ask me. But I do think that a kind of "vulgar 1968" style of theory has 
>>> run its course. Nancy Fraser has it exactly right: capitalism co-opted many 
>>> of the demands of '68-style theory. So now we have to reassess and 
>>> recompile a new kind of theoretical method. Because of this I'm much more 
>>> interested in a slightly different spin on the theoretical tradition. 
>>> 
>>> -ag
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