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Thank you, Johannes, for your invitation to rejoin the conversation! I will do so later on when can give it some thought, but I owe it to all to particularize my professional situation a bit. Yes, I have senior faculty status at Yale Law School and do a lot of informal participation with students through the Information Society Project and the Visual Law Project, both programs of the School populated by advanced students. As for teaching classes, I co-teach with a member of the law faculty a course called Visual Persuasion in the Law at Quinnipiac University School of Law. My students in that class have to actually make demonstrative evidence and a video argument. They are always kept on the same side of the case so that what is foregrounded are the different ways the same (hypothetical) case can be successfully argued. In my non-academic professional life I am a painter.

More later on the issues on the table. I look forward to an emerging international perspective.

CS



On 11/19/2014 10:04 AM, Johannes Birringer wrote:
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ps (to last night)
I just wanted to acknowledge, in addition, some of the contributions to our 
discussions over the past days, from John Hopkins, Erik Ehn, and Christina 
Spiesel; and I found it interesting,
in the contexts of human rights, the law and legal philosophy raised yesterday, 
that Christina chose to focus on the educational system and various aspects of 
teaching, cognition (machine)
learning, assessment, etc., presumably in the evolving corporatized and 
privatized neoliberal higher education sectors.  Christina also very 
persuasively points out that

teaching that produces critical thinking is labor intensive -- it actually 
requires teachers who have real knowledge/preparation before they get to 
students
and then students who can be responsive to inter-generational conversations.
This notion of the inter-generational conversation, and the various modes and 
possibilities of cultural performance and knowledge transmission  is an 
important one that deserves
further attention, I believe, also especially because it seems to me that 
'justice,' but also existing laws (and any form of dialogue and exchange based 
on situated codes and conventions and
discourses of specific historical and cultural contexts) and rules of 
propriety, debt, compensation, or distribution, are intimately connected to 
teaching and learning.

And of course, Christina, I agree with what you argue, namely that feeling and 
the emotions are also guides to value; what one would probably have to address, 
also when I listened to Fereshteh's brief
report on her new play, featuring a female protagonist (educated) who

has experienced a trauma in her islamic homeland and doubts the effectivness of 
psychotherapy in a world full of violence, war and joblessness, tries to heal 
herself by writing a play.

is the different availabilities of processing a world of violence, through a 
writing or talking cure, through role models, through action models,  and 
incitement from preachers, elders, brothers and father and mothers and sisters 
and peers.
Your comments, Christina, probably refer to the US (you teach at one of the top 
Ivy League universities?), but I wondered about the schools that Pia visited in 
the occupied territories, or schools in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I tried to contact Iraqui writer Sherko Fatah after reading about his last stay 
in the land of his father, near Suleimanija, but he has not replied yet; I also 
contacted artist./ethnographer Abdel Hernández in La Habana; he teaches at ISA 
(Instituto Superior de Arte) and I asked him whether he would join our 
roundtable as I hoped to hear more voices from regions outside euro-american 
northern hemisphere;due to lack of stable internet connection, Abdel and his 
students were not able to follow this discussion. Whereupon I saved all the 
posts into a consecutive text file and sent to Cuba, and Abdel promised he 
would get back to us.
Then, thinking of Rustom's crypt and a recent interview with Snowden in Russia, where he 
urges professionals to encrypt all "client communications" - I suggest to Abdel 
he better encrypt his letter to us.


warm regards
Johannes Birringer

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