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From: Joseph Salowey (jsalowey) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 2/20/2007 8:54 PM
To: Ryan Hurst; Bernard Aboba; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Emu] RE: draft-simon-emu-rfc2716bis-07.txt




>
>    If subject naming information is present only in the subject name
>    field and the peer identity represents a user, then the
> subject name
>    field SHOULD contain an emailAddress RDN.  If the peer identity
>    represents a host or device the subject name field SHOULD contain a
>    CN RDN or Serial Number RDN.
> [rmh] If you say they can include a serialNumber (not Serial
> Number) RDN then you have to specify processing symantics
> when more than one are present, and discuss what sort of
> value is used here, etc.
> [rmh] I suggest dropping the " or Serial Number RDN" portion
> of this text, we can if appropriate work on a appendix or
> other RFC that discusses these issues; I suspect the right
> answer will be to reference the Permanent Identifier RFC from
> the PKIX working group which already deals with these problems.
>

[Joe] Would you not have to do the same with email address or CN?  It
seems it would be possible for multiple of these to be present.  There
should not be any semantics associated with a serial number other than
it is an identifier.  It should not be interpreted as a MAC address or
some other value without additional knowledge outside this
specification.  I agree that this would not be the place to consistently
find a MAC address. I would prefer to keep Serial Number as a
possibility as it is at least as relevant as the other fields.  I would
be fine with the previous text I posted with a MAY.


[rmh] Although your right that the fact that multiple RDNs can be used to make 
up a DN universally other RDNs are non-ambiguous while serialNumber 
conceptually is not,

[rmh] As for the value, EAP is not 802.11 only therefore a device id should not 
be a MAC, also a MAC has locally administered and globally adminstered 
versions, you would probably want to restrict the use to the globally issued 
ones, then there are the privacy issues since the MAC is used as a source 
address a attacker can presume if a EAP authentication is succesfull the MAC 
used in the source address was authenticated. I think there are other issues 
related to it being a MAC address that should be thought through before it is 
added; especially if its not even common practice today which it doesnt apear 
to be.


>    If subject naming information is present only in the subject name
>    field of a server certificate, then the subject name field MUST
>    contain a CN RDN or Serial Number RDN.
> [rmh] See my prior statements on serialNumber RDN.
>
>


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