Alan,

On Thu, June 24, 2010 6:27 pm, Alan DeKok wrote:
>>   Alan, do you want to prohibit an "inner method" from terminating on a
>> different entity than the "outer (tunnel) method"? If the answer is yes
>> then I have no further questions. If the answer is no then I'd like to
>> know how you intend on keeping the contents of that "inner method" away
>> from the prying eyes of these proxy attackers?
>
>   The proposal to terminate TLS on the visited network *requires* that
> the users credentials are exposed all the way down the proxy chain.

  Wrong, it "allows the user credentials to be exposed", depending on
the EAP method.

>   The proposal to terminate TLS on the home network *permits* the home
> system to do what it wants with the user credentials.
>
>   If you can't see a difference between the two scenarios, then there is
> nothing more to discuss.

  I understand the difference (obviously a bit better than you do). And I
didn't ask you to list the differences. You said that the former "fails
the privacy requirements of any TLS-based EAP method." So I asked you a
simple question. Let me rephrase it for you in the hope you will answer
it: how do you propose to prevent this REQUIREMENT from not being met?

  Dan.



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